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good morning from Philadelphia that

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James come in from Westchester New York

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this is UFO news network Sunday I'm

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Frank stalter along with that James I

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and Olli and New York and today our

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guest is Steve Bassett who is the only

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registered lobbyist on the UFO topic in

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our nation's capitol and so let's also

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runs the paradigm research group so

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let's bring Steve right on in how are

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you today Steve I'm fine Frank's good to

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be with you thank you for coming on and

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let's get to the questioning with James

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yeah first I just want to give a quick

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plug for Steve you've been doing a lot

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of work lately

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and in particular the the paradigm

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research group org if you're listening

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to us give that go on that website he's

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done a ton of great work on there he's

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got over 200 articles about the tea the

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two stars academy work with all the

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videos that they've had on the media and

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he's got the Clinton UFO connection and

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of course the Rockefeller initiative

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which he's infamous for so with that

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aside I just wanted to ask you Steve the

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significance of the revelation of a tip

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and the Department of Defense release of

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gun camera footage which is

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unprecedented what are your thoughts on

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that highly significant breakthrough

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milestone watershed it yeah is it's

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something that was long in the making

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the the process of the whole project was

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being put together during 2015 and into

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2016 between a musician Tom DeLonge and

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members of the military intelligence

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complex which is some people find a

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little odd

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and it is on the surface but when you

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look a little close

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what you find is that you have this 40

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early 40s musician Tom DeLonge who had

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you know intelligent and successful

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parents he wasn't good at school is he

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couldn't keep still

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skateboarding his way through high

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school and took up the guitar when he

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was young like so many kids and when he

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left high school he formed fans several

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finally he formed blink 182 and then

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navigated through the very treacherous

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music industry and successfully not only

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turd but sold 15 million albums they

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took a hiatus and he formed another band

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angel in Airways and and then navigated

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that through the same process called 15

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million more albums along the way he set

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up a number of businesses successfully

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but more importantly after he left high

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school it became an autodidact self

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teacher read huge numbers and books so

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he's an interesting fellow but he's

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always been in an 80 issue going way

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back certainly in the early 90s and he

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he'd go away for years and you wouldn't

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hear much about him except in his music

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of course but in 2015 something unusual

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happened and that DeLonge like many

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others and is interested in this field

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would love to meet with people inside

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people at the Pentagon CIA insiders and

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astronauts whatever talk about this

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issue is easier said than done he had

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the the money to travel to go anywhere

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he wanted if there was a conference or a

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meeting of some kind that was open to

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the public he could go so for a while he

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was poking away at the military

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intelligence complex trying to meet with

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people that he thought could be worth

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talking to and he had an idea and the

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idea the plan he had was essentially

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that the US government needed to start

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bringing information out on this issue

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much more than they had in the past

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start participating in small D

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disclosure because the newest government

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is really not the bad guys they're the

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good guys they've been keeping us safe

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all these years that national security

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concerns but they get the bad rap

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accused of all manner of lying deception

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they needed to do some public relations

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that was this pitch and he also pitched

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the idea that he was very uh

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responsible that he wanted to work with

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them with guidance and direction and so

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forth well as it happened there were a

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group of people inside the military

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intelligence complex that were thinking

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along the same lines and he was the one

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knocking on the door and so they

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actually started meeting with him and

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formulated a plan and the plan was that

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Tom DeLonge would essentially be a

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spokesperson or reach out to do PR for

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them in a way among other things he's

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it's 42 or so going on really 32 he's

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more millennial then he has a generate

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Gen Y and big following all around the

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world you can reach out connect with

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people and be the conduit for this

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information to come forward be a

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spokesperson for their project it seems

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a little unusual but in fact that kind

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of thing is happening throughout the

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corporate world and this project was

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slowly put together over a period of I

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don't know 12 to 18 months and finally

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announced in a public way on March the

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27th of 2016 when DeLong went on

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coast-to-coast with George Knapp and

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spent about three hours talking about

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what the plan was revealing that he had

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met with insiders at the Pentagon the

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CIA NASA that he'd been provided an

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advisory team to give information to him

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that was then going to be brought into

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the public domain through multimedia

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documentaries fiction books but

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we nonfiction maybe music who knows and

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they were going to try to help the

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public learn about this in other words

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to be start being part of the solution

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and not the problem I didn't believe it

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at first I said this is simply to to

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however when on that interview show with

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Knab he said that well the first book

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the first effort to start breaking

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information now called secret machines

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is gonna be published very soon

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and lo and behold the next month April

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2016 and book was published and I'm

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going ok this must be real and that was

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the beginning he talked some more here

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and there but no major announcement cane

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because I believe the plan was to make

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the announced that sometime after the

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election and during the transition

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period December may be late November but

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that didn't happen

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what happened was that first of all

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among many things WikiLeaks released

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thousands of John Podesta C mails which

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showed the long interacting with Podesta

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extensively and outed some of the

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activities and some of the people who

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were involved which wasn't supposed to

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happen so that created some discomfort

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amongst the insiders he was working with

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but most importantly and and I

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understand he was he was talking to the

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Democrats not the Republicans and the

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reason for that is that up until the

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last minute the people inside the

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military intelligence complex were

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pretty sure Hillary Clinton's going to

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win more importantly they were pretty

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sure she was going to disclose which is

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one of the reasons why they were trying

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to get out in front of the issue but she

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didn't win and that just blew everything

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sky-high and so no announcement came we

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waited about 10 months it took 10 months

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rethink restructure rejigger whatever

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their plan was and finally they

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announced it on October 11th in a

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facebook video and what they announced

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this to the Stars Academy of Arts and

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a awkwardly named organization comprised

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of Tonga long and 10-person team all of

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which were most of which were former

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complex DoD CIA NSA the skunk works at

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Lockheed NASA an extraordinary team of

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people absolutely astounding and that

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announcement created quite a stir but

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not a lot because they didn't play it

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too hard

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no no press conference there were no

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press in the audience when they made the

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announcement on Facebook Loki but they

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got it out there and now I knew things

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were getting very serious and that was

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October 11th so naturally we were very

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eager to know what was gonna happen next

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into two months and they made their move

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what they did was in that two months

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they delivered a news story to the New

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York Times where as they handed over

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information and said this is a news

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story do you want to write it up nothing

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unusual about that happens all the time

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the New York Times could have ignored it

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or it could have published it and what

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it did was publish it big time so in

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December the 16th a date that may go

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down in history the New York Times

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with the same buy lines they assign the

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articles first to a New York Times

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reporter Helene Cooper but Leslie Kane

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was added to the byline and I think that

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that is the person that delivered the

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story to them I believe that was the

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conduit but I'm not certain and then to

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add a little gravitas to the articles

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the subject and these articles were

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on my website I don't know 60 some

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articles about the announcement of to

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the Stars Academy over 200 articles

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though are up there about the New York

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published that day and what we learned

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that day amidst this mass chaos going on

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I mean chaos it surpasses the Nixon

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Lewinsky period chaos I've never seen in

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my lifetime so it could have gotten a

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lot more focus but there's a gale force

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hurricane the flying around right now

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what was announced Wow first they

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announced that a research program had

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been commissioned by the Senate majority

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reader leader at the time Harry Reid

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powerful men to study the UFO phenomena

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well I was interesting and they ran this

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program formally from 2007 to 2012 that

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was interesting they announced who was

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in control of the program who managed it

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fella by the name of Louis Elizondo who

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left the CIA and went directly to Tom

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DeLonge steam came on board the program

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apparently while the funding of 22

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million ran out in 2012

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continued to work the project using

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resources he could scavenge here and

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there right up until the point that he

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left the CIA that was interesting and we

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learned that it was not a black program

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but it was low-key down low earmarked

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money that

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Reid was able to pull out of this budget

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or whatever and so I nobody knew about

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it I didn't know about it so it was

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essentially a secret but it was not a

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you SAP or an unacknowledged special

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access program but he gets better we

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learned that the reason that Reid

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approaches the Pentagon with this idea I

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think it's time we studied UFOs again

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was with the urging of none other than

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billionaire Robert Bigelow which was

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extremely notable because Bigelow has

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been involved in the et issue going back

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to the mid-90s when he created the

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National Institute of Discovery Sciences

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and looked into the phone with a 10 or

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12 person Advisory Board almost all of

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them everyone on PhDs and a number of

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insiders by level stuff and he continued

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that that program called knids all the

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way to 2004 Steven just that just to

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jump in really quickly you do bring up

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Bigelow and this is a concern for a lot

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of people I'd like to get your feedback

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on it the fact that a private individual

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who basically runs a corporation a

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private corporation private individual

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gathering up a lot of this UFO data is

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actually yeah not necessarily a good

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thing and because again it is privatized

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at least with the government we've got a

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shot at some time down the road getting

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this information either or getting some

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information through foyers through

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inevitable declassification that type of

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thing if it's private it becomes

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proprietary information and then it's

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that information stays locked up at the

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whim of a private individual who is has

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not really got a real strong track

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record of releasing what he knows what's

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your feedback on that that that is

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almost all misinformation okay and it's

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not true a lot of well the nature of

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this field which is justifiably paranoid

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frustrated angry and been manipulated

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for decades by the government

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is suspicious and not not hesitate

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doesn't hesitate to to go after any new

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players or any anyone really in the

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field frankly and this is by and large

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people that just don't know the history

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of it man I appreciate that so maybe I

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can be helpful here ok yeah I mean he

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doesn't have a real strong track record

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in terms of releasing information aside

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from the book that was approved about

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the skinwalker ranch we haven't seen a

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whole lot from him except general

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statement saying yeah this UFO thing is

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real we're being visited it was a great

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moment when he announced that on 60

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minutes unambiguously but as far as

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details go we haven't gotten a lot from

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him to be honest about it again I don't

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see it that way at all ok Bigelow formed

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a nationalist to discovery Sciences to

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look into this subject and funded it was

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his money and they did research it was

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no the fact that what they were finding

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they didn't they didn't necessarily

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publish everything they don't need to it

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was a private program funded by him

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though some things were revealed some of

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this stuff is pretty complicated and not

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necessarily result who knows but it is

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known that he was looking into these

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things including the et issue from 2009

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1995 2004 he was also notable that it

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was after he'd already started knids

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1999-2000 and then signed up his

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contractor with NASA because he took

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over the flexible habitat research that

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they no longer the funds for that is his

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pride and glory and went into a

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contractor relationship and NASA did not

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have a problem with his interest in the

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80 subject that was notable and

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of course he's working on the NASA

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projects or rather the NASA related

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projects and research all the way to two

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thousand two thousand seven at which

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point we learn later that he was part of

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the research program set up by Harry

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Reid he was receiving a lot of that

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funding to do some of the research this

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this is not surprising because the

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Pentagon didn't didn't want to do that

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program they they the last thing they

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wanted to do was to start up a quote UFO

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research program with with Senate money

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that could easily become known to the

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public for the simple reason that the

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Pentagon or the military intelligence

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community at the appropriate levels has

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been researching the et issue every

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second of every day of every month of

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every years and in 1947 if not sooner

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never stopped that's all black that's

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all in the the the the the deepest

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blackest highly classified area of

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military intelligence complex all right

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of course completely unknown to us what

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they do what they've what they've

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learned where their research facilities

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are everything unknown to us but they

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had no choice

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Bigelow was helpful in the sense that

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the research a lot of the research is

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being done by a corporation or under the

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aegis of a non-governmental person bo

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he's a contractor that took a little

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pressure off of them and of course

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they're not using any any any defense

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money they had to give it a name that

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would make sense to be a program like

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that to anybody inside that wanted to

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know about it or learned about it so

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they call it the advanced I believe

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initially was called the advanced

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aviation threat investigations program a

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tip but came the best thing to call the

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advanced aerospace and so that goes on

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now we don't know about it

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but that's nothing shocking about that

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the the

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list of things that we don't know about

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government research and projects isn't

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incredibly long list of the fact that we

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didn't know about that is not tickly

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notable but Bigelow at this point now is

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now involved in that program but in

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addition a couple years after that

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program he gets involved with MUFON in

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this case he provides a lot of money to

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move on to help create what amounted to

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a Rapid Response Team meaning I you've

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got the money if something happens you

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can get there right away and you've got

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the money to investigate in other words

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that's something that comes in from the

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public because I'm assuming he's already

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through a tip he's got access to

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anything hot that comes in via the

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military we don't know that nobody has

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access to we do know from the reports

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that were provided New York Times that

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he was given materials to research

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facilities that he set up but exactly

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what else he was responsible for we

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don't know I will assume that sightings

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and so forth were being looked at but

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they had 22 million dollars and that

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could have been handled by Elizondo we

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don't know but we do know he was

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involved in the research to one degree

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or another in support of the agent

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program but what I was about to say was

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that in 2009 he didn't gets involved

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with MUFON provides them money to do

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Rapid Response which they never had the

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money to do Deven chily they get on a

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case but it's a slow process they

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they're not in a position to just be

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there the next day

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and the deal was that that that

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information would be shared within that

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program didn't have it it had its

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problems and last about two years and

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eventually it ended but you know he and

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it was known it was publicly known it

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was not hidden to him is not a secret so

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once again he's involved he's helping

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out on this issue he's engaging this

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issue and that goes through 2011 so now

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we know that from this article in

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times but as you pointed out correctly

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something else happened because in May I

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believe I should know the exact date I

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can easily get it but it's round May of

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2017 six months before or rather five

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months before the announcement of the

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two stars Academy which he was connected

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to we learned and seven months before

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the article in The New York Times he's

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interviewed on 60 minutes and the reason

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for that was that a milestone had been

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reached in which the ISS the

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International Space Station was in fact

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testing for the first time one of his

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flexible habitats that he'd spent on

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these years twelve some fifteen years

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and for two million dollars developing

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and now it's getting tested perfectly

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valid research by the way totally

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appropriate and will eventually be

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highly utilized and so this is a big

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deal and of course he's a known figure

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so CBS decides this is the time to

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interview Bob Bigelow now this is this

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is one of the most watched news shows in

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the world and what they do is they

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provide you in advance the areas they're

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gonna ask about that's all they do they

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don't give you the questions but the

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areas they're going to talk about makes

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total sense so that you can prepare to

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respond in an appropriate way you don't

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send them the question they just give

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you some areas and clearly given his

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involvement in the et issue which was a

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known going all the way back to the mid

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90s they were gonna ask him about that

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so he knew he was going to be asked

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about that and sure enough as you moved

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towards the end of that very important

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interview Laura Logan gets into his

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interest in the UFO phenomena talks

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about the fact because grandparents had

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a sighting that affected him greatly and

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this may have gotten him interested and

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showed the logo of a tea tea on the side

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of his building all that but then

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finally the inevitable happens and she

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asked him

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I'll paraphrase here if he thinks that

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this phenomena is real and he says

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absolutely and she questions whether

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he's concerned that that people might

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think he's crazy and he instantly

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responds I don't give a damn and then

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she asked him you mean that they're here

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now and he says yeah isn't that amazing

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now understand when Bigelow that that

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wasn't something that he just decided to

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do he planned to do that he knew he was

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going to do that and when he did it he

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was also aware that the to the Stars

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Academy was going to be announcing soon

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and that project was going forward this

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was a essentially a not a pre-emptive

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but this was a maneuver by Bigelow to

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probably give more gravitas and enhance

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what what he knew was coming in other

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words he along with the to the Stars

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team and and the insiders this is this

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is a carefully planned fairly elaborate

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process underway to break the back of

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the truth embargo and Bigelow's

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statement on 60 minutes was extremely

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important and so later on now we learned

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from the article that he's involved in

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the ATF but that's not all we learned

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what we learned was that Elizondo when

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he left the CIA was given permission to

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take three videos with him now when when

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one of the quote spokespeople for the

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Pentagon were approached by a reporter

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about whether that video was authorized

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that person said no it's no it wasn't

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and that person just didn't know what

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they were talking about and that's not

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surprising because there is no way in

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hell that he is going to walk out of the

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DoD rather with gun camera footage does

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not authorized Declassified and that gun

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camera footage was released to the web

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by the New York Times as part of that

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article the first article and that was a

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major milestone that was a huge

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milestone why because in the 70 years

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since the UFO phenomena explodes in the

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00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:10,320
scene in a big way early 1947 in spite

550
00:28:15,620 --> 00:28:12,570
of the tens upon tens of thousands of

551
00:28:17,629 --> 00:28:15,630
intercepts that have occurred between

552
00:28:20,210 --> 00:28:17,639
planes from the United States Air Force

553
00:28:24,259 --> 00:28:20,220
and every other country with an air

554
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:24,269
force around the world all of which were

555
00:28:30,019 --> 00:28:26,490
filmed because you do not send up

556
00:28:31,669 --> 00:28:30,029
intercepts protecting your airspace and

557
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:31,679
not film the engagement

558
00:28:37,669 --> 00:28:35,250
it's called gun camera footage how many

559
00:28:40,610 --> 00:28:37,679
thousands of reels of that exist and

560
00:28:44,539 --> 00:28:40,620
then of an had ever been released with

561
00:28:46,789 --> 00:28:44,549
the possible exception of the Nimitz a

562
00:28:48,409 --> 00:28:46,799
piece of the Nimitz film may have been

563
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:48,419
unauthorized and released to a

564
00:28:53,810 --> 00:28:51,570
documentary team back in 2007 it's part

565
00:28:57,470 --> 00:28:53,820
of a documentary nobody noticed it was a

566
00:28:59,629 --> 00:28:57,480
blip on the radar but that footage was

567
00:29:03,019 --> 00:28:59,639
then released initially in the New York

568
00:29:05,690 --> 00:29:03,029
Times article the nimitz event just just

569
00:29:08,870 --> 00:29:05,700
jumping in real quick again Steve about

570
00:29:11,269 --> 00:29:08,880
that the Nimitz case that's a it's been

571
00:29:12,710 --> 00:29:11,279
six months since they initially did

572
00:29:14,210 --> 00:29:12,720
their their big announcement in four

573
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:14,220
months since the big New York Times

574
00:29:20,029 --> 00:29:17,610
story basically we've got details on one

575
00:29:24,919 --> 00:29:20,039
case which is the Nimitz case and it's

576
00:29:28,580 --> 00:29:24,929
14 years old now is that really enough

577
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:28,590
to sort of break the dam that that's not

578
00:29:32,990 --> 00:29:30,570
really a lot in terms of cases to go on

579
00:29:36,529 --> 00:29:33,000
I've heard numbers from Leslie Kean

580
00:29:40,009 --> 00:29:36,539
maybe they got literally one hot case

581
00:29:41,930 --> 00:29:40,019
per month into the a tip program we're

582
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:41,940
not seeing really a whole lot of details

583
00:29:48,289 --> 00:29:43,490
in terms of what they were actually

584
00:29:49,940 --> 00:29:48,299
investigating it just at least to me

585
00:29:50,940 --> 00:29:49,950
anyway it doesn't seem to be breaking

586
00:29:53,100 --> 00:29:50,950
through to the mains

587
00:29:55,350 --> 00:29:53,110
dream as far as well you know it's a

588
00:29:56,669 --> 00:29:55,360
story that did run late last year but

589
00:30:00,389 --> 00:29:56,679
things have been awfully quiet since

590
00:30:04,850 --> 00:30:00,399
then well first of all let's put it in

591
00:30:10,620 --> 00:30:04,860
perspective yeah we'd love to see it all

592
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:10,630
let's get it all out but if you consider

593
00:30:20,879 --> 00:30:15,730
the context what they have done is

594
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:20,889
unprecedented never happened before they

595
00:30:25,350 --> 00:30:23,010
have a team that's publicly out there

596
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:25,360
more powerful than any public team ever

597
00:30:32,779 --> 00:30:27,850
put together these are non-trivial

598
00:30:35,549 --> 00:30:32,789
significant milestones point number two

599
00:30:39,350 --> 00:30:35,559
understand that what they're trying to

600
00:30:41,879 --> 00:30:39,360
do is extremely complex and difficult

601
00:30:43,950 --> 00:30:41,889
what we know is that there are ten

602
00:30:47,639 --> 00:30:43,960
people in the outside which is that to

603
00:30:49,740 --> 00:30:47,649
the Stars team but according to Jim semi

604
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:49,750
Vanna gave an interview or spent about

605
00:30:54,990 --> 00:30:51,250
three hours talking with it with a

606
00:30:58,169 --> 00:30:55,000
researcher he informed her my name is

607
00:31:01,740 --> 00:30:58,179
Melinda Leslie yes that's correct

608
00:31:05,669 --> 00:31:01,750
he informed her that there were 40 or 50

609
00:31:08,370 --> 00:31:05,679
people inside that were essentially in

610
00:31:11,639 --> 00:31:08,380
support of what's happening on the

611
00:31:13,470 --> 00:31:11,649
outside so what do we what do we know

612
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:13,480
from that well first of all it means

613
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:16,570
this thing is really substantial we also

614
00:31:19,830 --> 00:31:18,250
know that they're clearly going to be

615
00:31:22,590 --> 00:31:19,840
there's people inside the military

616
00:31:25,879 --> 00:31:22,600
intelligence complex that are opposed to

617
00:31:29,190 --> 00:31:25,889
this they don't want this to happen and

618
00:31:32,070 --> 00:31:29,200
so they're dealing with that and yet

619
00:31:34,289 --> 00:31:32,080
somehow they were able to make this

620
00:31:35,730 --> 00:31:34,299
maneuver they were cleared in some way

621
00:31:40,590 --> 00:31:35,740
some fashion we don't know the details

622
00:31:42,810 --> 00:31:40,600
but it's not something that they it's

623
00:31:45,149 --> 00:31:42,820
not something this without blowback

624
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:45,159
without resistance second and then

625
00:31:48,389 --> 00:31:45,610
thirdly

626
00:31:50,039 --> 00:31:48,399
and it's very clear when you when you

627
00:31:53,129 --> 00:31:50,049
when you read everything that they've

628
00:31:55,169 --> 00:31:53,139
said and report it that they're

629
00:31:59,460 --> 00:31:55,179
operating with in some careful

630
00:32:02,009 --> 00:31:59,470
parameters meaning they're not releasing

631
00:32:04,529 --> 00:32:02,019
classified information they're not

632
00:32:04,799 --> 00:32:04,539
violating any non-disclosure agreements

633
00:32:08,249 --> 00:32:04,809
that the

634
00:32:11,970 --> 00:32:08,259
have they're not dividing any security

635
00:32:14,820 --> 00:32:11,980
O's in other words they're playing by

636
00:32:16,980 --> 00:32:14,830
the rules and they have to continue to

637
00:32:20,190 --> 00:32:16,990
play by the rules regardless of how what

638
00:32:22,950 --> 00:32:20,200
we want they have to stay within the

639
00:32:25,529 --> 00:32:22,960
lines or they're gonna get pushback that

640
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:25,539
may prevent them from moving forward so

641
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:27,570
they are they're navigating some very

642
00:32:33,509 --> 00:32:30,730
difficult and tricky waters how and then

643
00:32:35,159 --> 00:32:33,519
the fourth point is this and you have to

644
00:32:38,340 --> 00:32:35,169
keep reminding yourself with this every

645
00:32:42,830 --> 00:32:38,350
day that what is going on in the United

646
00:32:45,810 --> 00:32:42,840
States right now is almost unprecedented

647
00:32:50,539 --> 00:32:45,820
we're in the middle of a degree of

648
00:32:53,639 --> 00:32:50,549
political chaos not seen I don't think

649
00:32:55,739 --> 00:32:53,649
in the modern time though there have

650
00:32:58,739 --> 00:32:55,749
been a few times it got pretty wild and

651
00:33:00,930 --> 00:32:58,749
crazy' 1968 was pretty crazy but not

652
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:00,940
like this we we are we are in

653
00:33:06,450 --> 00:33:03,850
extraordinary times and the media is is

654
00:33:09,749 --> 00:33:06,460
approaching full-blown media feeding

655
00:33:12,810 --> 00:33:09,759
frenzy on this and so whatever you're

656
00:33:17,850 --> 00:33:12,820
trying to do you are competing with this

657
00:33:20,609 --> 00:33:17,860
massive hurricane of political chaos now

658
00:33:23,820 --> 00:33:20,619
the fifth point is that it's not just

659
00:33:26,549 --> 00:33:23,830
that the chaos it is the subject matter

660
00:33:27,330 --> 00:33:26,559
of the chaos in other words this we are

661
00:33:32,609 --> 00:33:27,340
we are dealing with political

662
00:33:35,430 --> 00:33:32,619
instability uncertainty and that is not

663
00:33:38,549 --> 00:33:35,440
a good environment to pursue a complex

664
00:33:40,139 --> 00:33:38,559
difficult strategy of disclosure about

665
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:40,149
what is easily the most important issue

666
00:33:47,369 --> 00:33:43,690
in the world and so again as I pointed

667
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:47,379
out they had a plan but that plan along

668
00:33:52,369 --> 00:33:49,090
with the plans of a lot of other people

669
00:33:56,659 --> 00:33:52,379
blue sky high on November the 8th of

670
00:34:00,090 --> 00:33:56,669
2016 and they had to reconfigure

671
00:34:03,299 --> 00:34:00,100
re-strategize and decide when to

672
00:34:04,859 --> 00:34:03,309
reengage and they waited 10 months to do

673
00:34:07,590 --> 00:34:04,869
that I thought they might even wait even

674
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:07,600
longer but for whatever reason and I

675
00:34:11,399 --> 00:34:09,970
have mice but I am I die I have some

676
00:34:13,859 --> 00:34:11,409
speculation on that and get into it

677
00:34:16,110 --> 00:34:13,869
later they decided to move forward but

678
00:34:17,940 --> 00:34:16,120
they're moving forward carefully

679
00:34:22,100 --> 00:34:17,950
after they announced on December the

680
00:34:25,170 --> 00:34:22,110
16th as you probably know more chaos

681
00:34:27,510 --> 00:34:25,180
developed it got worse in fact it's

682
00:34:29,190 --> 00:34:27,520
gotten worse every month since that

683
00:34:32,970 --> 00:34:29,200
article was released on December the

684
00:34:35,850 --> 00:34:32,980
16th I can't I am I am following a 25

685
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:35,860
Bob filing it every single day and I can

686
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:38,170
barely keep up with it and so they are

687
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:43,090
wisely waiting for a little bit some

688
00:34:46,890 --> 00:34:44,890
calm waters here before they make

689
00:34:48,090 --> 00:34:46,900
another major move and that doesn't mean

690
00:34:51,930 --> 00:34:48,100
it won't happen tomorrow

691
00:34:55,890 --> 00:34:51,940
but they're having to slow it down and I

692
00:34:59,220 --> 00:34:55,900
think it's the right move so that that

693
00:35:02,340 --> 00:34:59,230
that is my attempt to give you a sense

694
00:35:04,530 --> 00:35:02,350
of what we see going on here

695
00:35:06,540 --> 00:35:04,540
I understand all the criticisms being

696
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:06,550
directed at this program I've seen them

697
00:35:12,870 --> 00:35:09,970
all and I respect the scrutiny I respect

698
00:35:15,210 --> 00:35:12,880
that frustration and so forth but I

699
00:35:17,850 --> 00:35:15,220
caution people or not caution but I

700
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:17,860
encourage people to have some patience

701
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:21,570
here some perspective and focus more on

702
00:35:27,300 --> 00:35:24,610
reading everything that they have

703
00:35:28,770 --> 00:35:27,310
written listening to all of the

704
00:35:30,540 --> 00:35:28,780
interviews that they've given and all of

705
00:35:33,890 --> 00:35:30,550
that is on my website paradigm research

706
00:35:37,590 --> 00:35:33,900
group that or just go to the section on

707
00:35:39,720 --> 00:35:37,600
to the stars Academy and you'll see it

708
00:35:43,020 --> 00:35:39,730
the links to all the articles as well as

709
00:35:45,060 --> 00:35:43,030
the videos and just and then go to the

710
00:35:46,770 --> 00:35:45,070
website study what they have there and

711
00:35:48,030 --> 00:35:46,780
just try to get up to speed on

712
00:35:52,050 --> 00:35:48,040
everything that they're doing that's

713
00:35:54,540 --> 00:35:52,060
that's what I advise and we'll see what

714
00:35:57,150 --> 00:35:54,550
happens if I if I have cause to be

715
00:35:59,010 --> 00:35:57,160
concerned about the validity or the

716
00:36:02,340 --> 00:35:59,020
intentions of this program I assure you

717
00:36:03,990 --> 00:36:02,350
I will be public with that well they've

718
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:04,000
been pretty simple about what they said

719
00:36:07,770 --> 00:36:05,530
they really wanted to do which is

720
00:36:09,540 --> 00:36:07,780
basically develop entertainment

721
00:36:11,670 --> 00:36:09,550
properties and looks like they're

722
00:36:15,390 --> 00:36:11,680
working on that although that can take a

723
00:36:17,340 --> 00:36:15,400
while to they've also said that they

724
00:36:20,250 --> 00:36:17,350
want to get the conversation going with

725
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:20,260
the American people about the UFO issue

726
00:36:27,090 --> 00:36:24,850
and certainly among UFO buffs like James

727
00:36:28,290 --> 00:36:27,100
and I and most of the people would be

728
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:28,300
listening to this they've definitely

729
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:29,290
done that

730
00:36:33,240 --> 00:36:30,970
not so sure how successful they've been

731
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:33,250
with the general public and they've also

732
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:37,090
said they literally want to build a ship

733
00:36:41,700 --> 00:36:39,490
that'll do essentially what you opposed

734
00:36:43,470 --> 00:36:41,710
do those are the three goals and

735
00:36:45,780 --> 00:36:43,480
generally you got I think you can take

736
00:36:49,650 --> 00:36:45,790
people at their word in terms of doing

737
00:36:53,310 --> 00:36:49,660
what they say they want to do in that

738
00:36:54,810 --> 00:36:53,320
regard let's I might be missing

739
00:36:58,920 --> 00:36:54,820
something in there but I think those are

740
00:37:01,320 --> 00:36:58,930
three you got it but not surprisingly

741
00:37:04,980 --> 00:37:01,330
given that we're dealing with the 80

742
00:37:07,650 --> 00:37:04,990
issue and we're dealing with with the

743
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:07,660
Defense Department and the military

744
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:10,530
intelligence complex things are not

745
00:37:20,430 --> 00:37:12,930
exactly what they seem

746
00:37:22,470 --> 00:37:20,440
and let me elaborate on that the the PR

747
00:37:24,500 --> 00:37:22,480
aspect of this which Tom DeLonge has

748
00:37:27,720 --> 00:37:24,510
spoken to directly is pretty obvious

749
00:37:30,810 --> 00:37:27,730
they clearly are trying to help he is

750
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:30,820
trying to help and the program is geared

751
00:37:37,500 --> 00:37:35,050
to show the the national security

752
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:37,510
structures as wanting to be part of the

753
00:37:41,910 --> 00:37:39,130
solution not the problem

754
00:37:44,550 --> 00:37:41,920
and get ahead of the issue so that their

755
00:37:46,260 --> 00:37:44,560
PR problems will be diminished when

756
00:37:50,930 --> 00:37:46,270
disclosure funding comes and they're

757
00:37:55,110 --> 00:37:50,940
going to have plenty of that secondly

758
00:37:57,720 --> 00:37:55,120
they want to convey information in his

759
00:38:00,330 --> 00:37:57,730
multimedia form in other words an

760
00:38:03,420 --> 00:38:00,340
educational aspect of the thing which

761
00:38:06,030 --> 00:38:03,430
they've done some of that it's slow

762
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:06,040
second book just came out secret

763
00:38:12,870 --> 00:38:11,650
machines a hidden fire or something and

764
00:38:15,180 --> 00:38:12,880
that's fine we know that they were

765
00:38:19,020 --> 00:38:15,190
working on a dock because that was

766
00:38:21,510 --> 00:38:19,030
confirmed in the Podesta email leaks the

767
00:38:27,630 --> 00:38:21,520
third thing they did which was announced

768
00:38:30,380 --> 00:38:27,640
on October 11th 2016 was indicate that

769
00:38:34,590 --> 00:38:30,390
they were gonna raise money to pursue

770
00:38:38,730 --> 00:38:34,600
research and development in what we

771
00:38:40,740 --> 00:38:38,740
might call et related threads not the

772
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:40,750
least of which being anti-gravity and

773
00:38:45,410 --> 00:38:42,970
they set up a non they say

774
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:45,420
a public service corporation which is a

775
00:38:50,820 --> 00:38:48,490
form of corporation public benefit

776
00:38:53,250 --> 00:38:50,830
corporation which is fairly simple and

777
00:38:57,990 --> 00:38:53,260
doesn't have a lot of bells and whistles

778
00:38:59,820 --> 00:38:58,000
and CIA involvement $5 to share 200

779
00:39:02,490 --> 00:38:59,830
minimum limits so people could get

780
00:39:05,220 --> 00:39:02,500
involved so they could fund their

781
00:39:05,850 --> 00:39:05,230
efforts and be involved in a piece of

782
00:39:09,450 --> 00:39:05,860
the action

783
00:39:12,450 --> 00:39:09,460
totally appropriate also understand that

784
00:39:14,970 --> 00:39:12,460
these people that are on this team are

785
00:39:18,780 --> 00:39:14,980
very high level people capable of making

786
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:18,790
very substantial incomes and the idea

787
00:39:23,310 --> 00:39:20,170
that they're just gonna volunteer for

788
00:39:25,350 --> 00:39:23,320
this program I don't think so and so

789
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:25,360
there's gonna be money to pay people and

790
00:39:31,950 --> 00:39:28,810
to do fundamental functions but they in

791
00:39:33,900 --> 00:39:31,960
they sort of implied that boy if we

792
00:39:35,310 --> 00:39:33,910
could raise huge amount of money we

793
00:39:39,900 --> 00:39:35,320
could look in Annegret videos we could

794
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:39,910
do all this that I do not accept at face

795
00:39:45,330 --> 00:39:42,370
value I believe that's a

796
00:39:52,290 --> 00:39:45,340
misrepresentation but I understand why

797
00:39:55,890 --> 00:39:52,300
it is and the reason is this as I said

798
00:39:58,970 --> 00:39:55,900
before everybody on this team has

799
00:40:03,480 --> 00:39:58,980
national security credentials

800
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:03,490
non-disclosure agreements and and and so

801
00:40:07,740 --> 00:40:05,890
forth that they're gonna carry for the

802
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:07,750
rest of their lives and they're they are

803
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:10,330
not violating those which means and I

804
00:40:14,310 --> 00:40:12,490
can assure you that every member of that

805
00:40:15,830 --> 00:40:14,320
team there's a lot more about this issue

806
00:40:18,750 --> 00:40:15,840
than they're saying

807
00:40:20,460 --> 00:40:18,760
and one of the things they know is that

808
00:40:23,670 --> 00:40:20,470
the US government has been researching

809
00:40:26,460 --> 00:40:23,680
this program forever and has been doing

810
00:40:28,620 --> 00:40:26,470
reengineering on on ET technology

811
00:40:31,290 --> 00:40:28,630
anti-gravity x energy systems and god

812
00:40:33,810 --> 00:40:31,300
knows what with billions and billions of

813
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:33,820
dollars and so the idea that they're

814
00:40:38,970 --> 00:40:35,530
going to publicly raise a bunch of money

815
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:38,980
and what reinvent the wheel I don't

816
00:40:50,670 --> 00:40:46,210
think so and so what is going on here my

817
00:40:53,970 --> 00:40:50,680
best assessment is this whatever money

818
00:40:56,230 --> 00:40:53,980
they raise how much however much

819
00:40:57,970 --> 00:40:56,240
attention they get

820
00:41:01,060 --> 00:40:57,980
however much contribution they make to

821
00:41:05,590 --> 00:41:01,070
the disclosure process which they are

822
00:41:09,190 --> 00:41:05,600
making they will most certainly be out

823
00:41:13,740 --> 00:41:09,200
in front of this issue when disclosure

824
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:13,750
comes and when disclosure cones

825
00:41:19,180 --> 00:41:16,130
obviously the pressure on the government

826
00:41:22,720 --> 00:41:19,190
to start revealing technological

827
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:22,730
developments et related is going to be

828
00:41:28,630 --> 00:41:25,970
intense and ultimately the government is

829
00:41:32,230 --> 00:41:28,640
going to have to share give up work with

830
00:41:34,930 --> 00:41:32,240
in a public domain what it has and the

831
00:41:36,670 --> 00:41:34,940
and that is that is a massive transition

832
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:36,680
and when you have transitions of that

833
00:41:45,390 --> 00:41:40,370
magnitude a lot of money changes hands a

834
00:41:47,290 --> 00:41:45,400
lot of opportunity is available and

835
00:41:49,390 --> 00:41:47,300
everybody's going to want to be there

836
00:41:52,330 --> 00:41:49,400
all the big corporations all the big

837
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:52,340
institutions you name it everyone is

838
00:41:57,010 --> 00:41:53,330
going to weigh part of that transition

839
00:41:58,840 --> 00:41:57,020
and the ones that are ahead of the curve

840
00:42:01,420 --> 00:41:58,850
the ones that are out in front are the

841
00:42:05,530 --> 00:42:01,430
ones that are more likely to be able to

842
00:42:07,710 --> 00:42:05,540
participate early on and who are the

843
00:42:12,370 --> 00:42:07,720
people that are out in front right now

844
00:42:19,930 --> 00:42:12,380
well to the Stars Academy is Yvonne musk

845
00:42:20,620 --> 00:42:19,940
is Richard Branson is Jeff Bezos is yuri

846
00:42:26,020 --> 00:42:20,630
milner

847
00:42:28,950 --> 00:42:26,030
is Robert Bigelow is and every one of

848
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:28,960
the people I mentioned or billionaires

849
00:42:37,150 --> 00:42:32,650
and to give you a how how weird does get

850
00:42:37,930 --> 00:42:37,160
Musk Bezos SpaceX the whole nine yards

851
00:42:39,430 --> 00:42:37,940
what's this all about

852
00:42:40,540 --> 00:42:39,440
well we're gonna commercialize space and

853
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:40,550
they're making these these these

854
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:43,490
chemical rockets civilian rockets they

855
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:45,890
could go into orbit and even land there

856
00:42:52,210 --> 00:42:49,130
their fuel pods that's all cool except

857
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:52,220
that it's a little odd because these are

858
00:42:58,420 --> 00:42:55,490
billionaires they have access to

859
00:43:01,450 --> 00:42:58,430
information they have people lining up

860
00:43:04,720 --> 00:43:01,460
to tell them things they're very smart

861
00:43:06,220 --> 00:43:04,730
the idea that they don't know that the

862
00:43:08,380 --> 00:43:06,230
government is fully aware of an et

863
00:43:09,670 --> 00:43:08,390
presence and has been working on that

864
00:43:12,790 --> 00:43:09,680
subject for seven

865
00:43:15,820 --> 00:43:12,800
years is laughable of course they know

866
00:43:18,820 --> 00:43:15,830
and so what in the hell is Liam Ian Ian

867
00:43:21,340 --> 00:43:18,830
Dale on must doing spending all this

868
00:43:22,900 --> 00:43:21,350
money building chemical rockets when the

869
00:43:26,110 --> 00:43:22,910
US government is probably an antigravity

870
00:43:29,890 --> 00:43:26,120
craft for fifty years because he can't

871
00:43:31,750 --> 00:43:29,900
build anti-gravity craft and if he tried

872
00:43:34,690 --> 00:43:31,760
to he would be messing with the primal

873
00:43:37,420 --> 00:43:34,700
forces there and so he and the other

874
00:43:40,390 --> 00:43:37,430
guys are being the commercial space

875
00:43:42,250 --> 00:43:40,400
pioneers but when the real technology

876
00:43:46,390 --> 00:43:42,260
comes out who's going to be first in

877
00:43:50,020 --> 00:43:46,400
line to quote be part of that and so I

878
00:43:51,730 --> 00:43:50,030
assure you it disclosure comes and Anna

879
00:43:54,820 --> 00:43:51,740
Grammatik technology is finally a

880
00:43:57,310 --> 00:43:54,830
released or becomes known about in the

881
00:43:59,650 --> 00:43:57,320
post disclosure world Elon Musk will

882
00:44:02,710 --> 00:43:59,660
drop his chemical rocket program so fast

883
00:44:04,810 --> 00:44:02,720
you won't even notice it and so again

884
00:44:07,810 --> 00:44:04,820
why the gain why do they have to front

885
00:44:10,540 --> 00:44:07,820
it because remember the et subject is

886
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:10,550
still fully classified in the deepest

887
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:12,130
part of the military-industrial complex

888
00:44:18,190 --> 00:44:14,690
the government's position on this is

889
00:44:22,210 --> 00:44:18,200
still there is no extraterrestrial

890
00:44:26,470 --> 00:44:22,220
presence period that's their formal

891
00:44:30,630 --> 00:44:26,480
position and so all of this is having to

892
00:44:35,740 --> 00:44:30,640
be done in this somewhat evasive

893
00:44:37,270 --> 00:44:35,750
somewhat misdirected manner because of

894
00:44:41,620 --> 00:44:37,280
the truth embargo which we're still

895
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:41,630
under and I get it I am NOT gonna scream

896
00:44:46,180 --> 00:44:44,690
and yell at these guys just like you

897
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:46,190
know I try not to scream and yell at

898
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:48,610
SETI too much because the truth embargo

899
00:44:55,180 --> 00:44:51,770
ultimately makes fools of us all one way

900
00:44:56,700 --> 00:44:55,190
or the other but nevertheless we're

901
00:44:59,010 --> 00:44:56,710
heading in the right direction

902
00:45:00,850 --> 00:44:59,020
billionaires involved in et issue

903
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:00,860
billionaires involved in space

904
00:45:05,890 --> 00:45:03,650
exploration government people coming

905
00:45:09,490 --> 00:45:05,900
forward given what we've gone through

906
00:45:12,010 --> 00:45:09,500
since 1947 I'm pretty happy with all

907
00:45:15,210 --> 00:45:12,020
that and I assure you if we didn't have

908
00:45:17,740 --> 00:45:15,220
an absolute 10 ring political circus

909
00:45:20,170 --> 00:45:17,750
going on right now with clown cars

910
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:20,180
everywhere we'd probably be a hell of a

911
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:22,130
lot further along but that's what's

912
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:23,450
happened that's that's the

913
00:45:27,370 --> 00:45:25,010
that's the the hand that's been dealt

914
00:45:30,549 --> 00:45:27,380
and we have to play it now Eugene

915
00:45:33,190 --> 00:45:30,559
Oh God God James no I was gonna say now

916
00:45:35,500 --> 00:45:33,200
we have a tip finally revealed that

917
00:45:37,539 --> 00:45:35,510
there was indeed a government program

918
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:37,549
investigating UFOs that's on the record

919
00:45:43,180 --> 00:45:40,130
yeah and we have the DoD release of the

920
00:45:48,490 --> 00:45:43,190
videos and to star Academy's involvement

921
00:45:50,289 --> 00:45:48,500
and it seems that the the public it

922
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:50,299
seems to be more accepting of all this

923
00:45:53,980 --> 00:45:52,010
they're like oh wow the government was

924
00:45:56,620 --> 00:45:53,990
looking to UFOs sure but the UFO

925
00:45:59,650 --> 00:45:56,630
community has such a push back on this

926
00:46:01,180 --> 00:45:59,660
and and it's pretty astonishing it's

927
00:46:03,490 --> 00:46:01,190
like that it's finally here now they

928
00:46:06,730 --> 00:46:03,500
don't want it it's not that I don't want

929
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:06,740
it the it again what is the UFO

930
00:46:12,910 --> 00:46:09,410
community it's a it's a very imprecise

931
00:46:16,299 --> 00:46:12,920
term let's just say that the the

932
00:46:20,859 --> 00:46:16,309
community of people who have invested a

933
00:46:25,240 --> 00:46:20,869
lot of their time some money into the

934
00:46:26,230 --> 00:46:25,250
subject and understanding it researching

935
00:46:28,089 --> 00:46:26,240
and writing about it

936
00:46:29,799 --> 00:46:28,099
caring about it which includes people

937
00:46:31,750 --> 00:46:29,809
that have had profound sightings which

938
00:46:35,260 --> 00:46:31,760
will stick with you the rest of your

939
00:46:36,789 --> 00:46:35,270
life and of course contactees this

940
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:36,799
community has been living under a truth

941
00:46:43,180 --> 00:46:39,890
embargo since the day was born and

942
00:46:48,010 --> 00:46:43,190
that's not fun it's pretty damn

943
00:46:50,970 --> 00:46:48,020
frustrating just like yeah a lot of

944
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:50,980
people of color they were born into

945
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:53,770
segregation and racism the turn of the

946
00:47:00,220 --> 00:46:56,690
twentieth century they had to live with

947
00:47:03,789 --> 00:47:00,230
it their entire life and many of them

948
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:03,799
didn't even see the Civil Rights Act and

949
00:47:10,270 --> 00:47:07,130
the Voting Rights Act history can

950
00:47:15,870 --> 00:47:10,280
sometimes be slow change painful change

951
00:47:18,579 --> 00:47:15,880
slow and that's just the way it is but

952
00:47:20,500 --> 00:47:18,589
this is a time when people have a

953
00:47:21,730 --> 00:47:20,510
tremendous voice they have the ability

954
00:47:25,740 --> 00:47:21,740
to voice their irritations and

955
00:47:28,569 --> 00:47:25,750
complaints to the world theoretically I

956
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:28,579
can put up a blog piece on my site and

957
00:47:32,859 --> 00:47:30,770
theoretically every single person with a

958
00:47:35,319 --> 00:47:32,869
computer in the world could go read it

959
00:47:37,130 --> 00:47:35,329
and so this stuff is happening and they

960
00:47:38,630 --> 00:47:37,140
didn't happening fast enough for me

961
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:38,640
they want it now they want it

962
00:47:41,990 --> 00:47:40,650
immediately and they're suspicious the

963
00:47:44,210 --> 00:47:42,000
government's been lying about the issue

964
00:47:46,849 --> 00:47:44,220
for 70 years why would they tell the

965
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:46,859
truth now I get that and and so it's the

966
00:47:53,299 --> 00:47:48,930
people that have the emotional invested

967
00:47:57,940 --> 00:47:53,309
interest that are most willing and

968
00:48:00,650 --> 00:47:57,950
descripton eyes and find fault with

969
00:48:04,609 --> 00:48:00,660
whatever turns up in this area and I'm

970
00:48:06,230 --> 00:48:04,619
fine with that let it be scrutinized we

971
00:48:08,029 --> 00:48:06,240
want somebody paying attention the

972
00:48:09,470 --> 00:48:08,039
general public doesn't have that

973
00:48:12,589 --> 00:48:09,480
investment and they're going oh this is

974
00:48:15,470 --> 00:48:12,599
cool so I'm not going to overreact to

975
00:48:16,460 --> 00:48:15,480
the to the criticisms the skeptics on it

976
00:48:20,049 --> 00:48:16,470
and what-have-you

977
00:48:22,190 --> 00:48:20,059
what I can do is inform and enlighten

978
00:48:24,529 --> 00:48:22,200
because I do spend a lot of time with

979
00:48:26,839 --> 00:48:24,539
this so that people at least have

980
00:48:31,009 --> 00:48:26,849
reasonably good information as they

981
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:31,019
contemplate these developments now I you

982
00:48:34,849 --> 00:48:32,490
were talking a little bit about that

983
00:48:38,089 --> 00:48:34,859
pressure from the outside on this

984
00:48:40,490 --> 00:48:38,099
governmental apparatus which is really

985
00:48:43,039 --> 00:48:40,500
not part of the the legislative branch

986
00:48:45,529 --> 00:48:43,049
or the judicial branch likely under the

987
00:48:47,630 --> 00:48:45,539
executive branch and our current

988
00:48:49,509 --> 00:48:47,640
president as you mentioned seems to be

989
00:48:54,650 --> 00:48:49,519
tied up with some other things right now

990
00:48:57,259 --> 00:48:54,660
as far as any kind of a groundswell of

991
00:49:00,349 --> 00:48:57,269
support for more information coming from

992
00:49:01,519 --> 00:49:00,359
Congress you work the halls you've been

993
00:49:04,609 --> 00:49:01,529
there you've talked to a lot of these

994
00:49:07,599 --> 00:49:04,619
people what the kind of sense do you get

995
00:49:10,900 --> 00:49:07,609
is that going to heat up at all no

996
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:10,910
congress is essentially a dead duck a

997
00:49:21,339 --> 00:49:16,650
dead duck walking it it has been for

998
00:49:25,509 --> 00:49:21,349
some time a victim of hyper-partisanship

999
00:49:29,509 --> 00:49:25,519
what's essentially froze the engine and

1000
00:49:34,730 --> 00:49:29,519
as a result what's going on with

1001
00:49:39,039 --> 00:49:34,740
Congress is it's it's sort of stewing in

1002
00:49:44,329 --> 00:49:39,049
its own juice boiling like a frog

1003
00:49:49,940 --> 00:49:44,339
until a good deal of it dies off to be

1004
00:49:50,740 --> 00:49:49,950
replaced by new new blood we're going to

1005
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:50,750
before the

1006
00:49:55,720 --> 00:49:53,450
Congress will become viable and

1007
00:49:58,510 --> 00:49:55,730
interested in anything outside its own

1008
00:50:00,430 --> 00:49:58,520
survival we're going to have to see

1009
00:50:04,570 --> 00:50:00,440
major reforms in both the Democratic and

1010
00:50:08,260 --> 00:50:04,580
Republican Party these are non trivial

1011
00:50:09,940 --> 00:50:08,270
matters now as it happens the Congress

1012
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:09,950
is out of the loop on the ET issue they

1013
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:11,810
got nothing they have been for a very

1014
00:50:15,490 --> 00:50:13,970
long time and then includes all the

1015
00:50:17,050 --> 00:50:15,500
appropriate oversight committees all of

1016
00:50:20,140 --> 00:50:17,060
this is a constitutional breach I know

1017
00:50:22,660 --> 00:50:20,150
but that's just the truth of it so in a

1018
00:50:23,860 --> 00:50:22,670
sense they're not in the game but in the

1019
00:50:26,530 --> 00:50:23,870
sense that they're somehow gonna become

1020
00:50:29,110 --> 00:50:26,540
part of the game know again they're all

1021
00:50:30,610 --> 00:50:29,120
drowning in a way and until they they're

1022
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:30,620
able to climb out of the water dry

1023
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:32,570
themselves off and decide what they're

1024
00:50:39,010 --> 00:50:36,890
going to do or and just leave to be

1025
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:39,020
replaced by a new blood we're not gonna

1026
00:50:43,030 --> 00:50:40,850
see much there you have an unprecedented

1027
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:43,040
number of retirements you're going to

1028
00:50:47,950 --> 00:50:44,810
see the largest wave election in history

1029
00:50:50,620 --> 00:50:47,960
in a few months and a lot of other

1030
00:50:53,430 --> 00:50:50,630
things so consider Congress part of that

1031
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:53,440
political chaos hurricane going on and

1032
00:50:58,690 --> 00:50:55,850
that's all that that's all that's going

1033
00:51:01,630 --> 00:50:58,700
there and I don't I don't even think

1034
00:51:03,850 --> 00:51:01,640
about him at this point now you did put

1035
00:51:05,980 --> 00:51:03,860
together a few years back the the mock

1036
00:51:09,190 --> 00:51:05,990
congressional hearing where you had an

1037
00:51:12,850 --> 00:51:09,200
former senator and a handful of former

1038
00:51:15,190 --> 00:51:12,860
Congress people on this committee now I

1039
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:15,200
assume that you didn't put that that

1040
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:18,050
group together picking names out of a

1041
00:51:22,750 --> 00:51:21,290
hat with there's some genuine interest

1042
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:22,760
there from those folks before they

1043
00:51:29,890 --> 00:51:26,050
agreed to sign up for that particular

1044
00:51:34,090 --> 00:51:29,900
presentation I can't speak for them

1045
00:51:39,220 --> 00:51:34,100
personally but the their the the view of

1046
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:39,230
the Congress persons on the subject of

1047
00:51:44,770 --> 00:51:41,930
the et issue was not a compactor then

1048
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:44,780
they were never asked they were

1049
00:51:56,950 --> 00:51:55,600
and there might have been I suppose

1050
00:51:58,180 --> 00:51:56,960
there were a few members of Congress for

1051
00:51:59,730 --> 00:51:58,190
four members of Congress they might not

1052
00:52:01,720 --> 00:51:59,740
have a simply because of other issues

1053
00:52:04,450 --> 00:52:01,730
concerns but overall they were

1054
00:52:06,339 --> 00:52:04,460
approached on availability and and by

1055
00:52:08,950 --> 00:52:06,349
laurens they all came in to the issue in

1056
00:52:10,930 --> 00:52:08,960
issue relatively neutral they were on

1057
00:52:14,410 --> 00:52:10,940
the fence they were not ideologues

1058
00:52:16,570 --> 00:52:14,420
either way and has it happened not

1059
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:16,580
surprisingly when it was over they were

1060
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:19,010
powerfully affected by the testimony and

1061
00:52:23,109 --> 00:52:21,170
a couple of them had been very

1062
00:52:25,020 --> 00:52:23,119
aggressive and speaking about it since

1063
00:52:27,670 --> 00:52:25,030
though there's not a lot they can do

1064
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:27,680
again they're not going to be able to

1065
00:52:31,570 --> 00:52:30,050
and I didn't marshal them to go to

1066
00:52:34,180 --> 00:52:31,580
Congress to get here because I know

1067
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:34,190
would have been a waste of time but that

1068
00:52:39,099 --> 00:52:35,930
was an important event in and of itself

1069
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:39,109
and it's been recorded and it's it's

1070
00:52:43,690 --> 00:52:42,170
gonna be there forever and it was but it

1071
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:43,700
was most importantly the platform in

1072
00:52:48,550 --> 00:52:46,010
which to launch the 2016 election

1073
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:48,560
political initiative which almost got us

1074
00:52:56,770 --> 00:52:51,530
disclosure in 2016 so it was part of a

1075
00:52:58,810 --> 00:52:56,780
larger strategy and I'm very proud of

1076
00:52:59,560 --> 00:52:58,820
that event and and hope to see it have

1077
00:53:03,790 --> 00:52:59,570
impact

1078
00:53:10,089 --> 00:53:03,800
very interesting

1079
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:10,099
absolutely so right now just Congress

1080
00:53:14,220 --> 00:53:12,530
just too partisan they're not gonna

1081
00:53:16,570 --> 00:53:14,230
touch this issue with a ten-foot pole

1082
00:53:19,810 --> 00:53:16,580
they're not touching anything virtually

1083
00:53:22,240 --> 00:53:19,820
I mean about them if they could just

1084
00:53:24,849 --> 00:53:22,250
read up the budget for a month they

1085
00:53:28,390 --> 00:53:24,859
consider themselves to had a successful

1086
00:53:30,190 --> 00:53:28,400
month and it's it's the final breakdown

1087
00:53:32,349 --> 00:53:30,200
of a system that's been in dysfunction

1088
00:53:36,790 --> 00:53:32,359
for decades and we're seeing in other

1089
00:53:41,290 --> 00:53:36,800
words the the the the car of state which

1090
00:53:46,270 --> 00:53:41,300
was once a beautifully conditioned well

1091
00:53:48,339 --> 00:53:46,280
running Lincoln Towncar is now virtually

1092
00:53:51,750 --> 00:53:48,349
broken down to the point where it can't

1093
00:53:54,730 --> 00:53:51,760
drive you can't get up the road

1094
00:53:57,609 --> 00:53:54,740
nothing erupted but the UFO issue does

1095
00:54:00,430 --> 00:53:57,619
sort of occupy this rather odd place in

1096
00:54:03,010 --> 00:54:00,440
that as far as the the left and right

1097
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:03,020
politics it it doesn't seem to impact

1098
00:54:07,420 --> 00:54:04,930
that you can have a very conservative

1099
00:54:09,370 --> 00:54:07,430
politician like going back away say

1100
00:54:12,130 --> 00:54:09,380
Barry Goldwater who spoke fairly openly

1101
00:54:14,290 --> 00:54:12,140
about it and then a Democrat leader like

1102
00:54:16,130 --> 00:54:14,300
Harry Reid also getting involved so it

1103
00:54:17,930 --> 00:54:16,140
doesn't have that kind of division

1104
00:54:19,250 --> 00:54:17,940
and if you're interested you're

1105
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:19,260
interested it doesn't seem to matter if

1106
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:21,450
you're left to right very true

1107
00:54:26,180 --> 00:54:24,210
good point the et issue is done is is

1108
00:54:29,780 --> 00:54:26,190
basically nonpartisan it transcends

1109
00:54:36,170 --> 00:54:29,790
politics transcends religion so in that

1110
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:36,180
sense that's that's a plus but Congress

1111
00:54:41,270 --> 00:54:39,090
is so screwed up doesn't matter the fact

1112
00:54:44,330 --> 00:54:41,280
that it's nonpartisan doesn't matter in

1113
00:54:47,660 --> 00:54:44,340
other words you know it's like imagine

1114
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:47,670
some but but it better might it might if

1115
00:54:52,790 --> 00:54:49,530
the environment were a little less

1116
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:52,800
chaotic though well maybe but yeah

1117
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:53,850
you're right you're right it's like a

1118
00:54:56,420 --> 00:54:55,410
bar fight going on and people are

1119
00:54:59,030 --> 00:54:56,430
beating each other over the head with

1120
00:55:01,040 --> 00:54:59,040
tables and chairs and so forth fighting

1121
00:55:04,220 --> 00:55:01,050
like crazy and you're you walk into the

1122
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:04,230
bar and and you you just want to get you

1123
00:55:08,150 --> 00:55:06,450
know you're not you don't have a stake

1124
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:08,160
in the fight and you just want to get

1125
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:12,090
directions to to someplace down the road

1126
00:55:15,830 --> 00:55:13,650
and nobody's gonna pay attention to you

1127
00:55:20,540 --> 00:55:15,840
and it's like that so nothing's gonna

1128
00:55:23,750 --> 00:55:20,550
happen there and when that will change I

1129
00:55:26,210 --> 00:55:23,760
don't know hopefully early next year

1130
00:55:27,530 --> 00:55:26,220
we'll see something well we'll see then

1131
00:55:29,420 --> 00:55:27,540
they let the next election is going to

1132
00:55:30,770 --> 00:55:29,430
be very important in determining whether

1133
00:55:32,900 --> 00:55:30,780
things are gonna settle down or whether

1134
00:55:36,430 --> 00:55:32,910
Congress is going to start doing some

1135
00:55:38,540 --> 00:55:36,440
real reforms so a best-case scenario

1136
00:55:41,420 --> 00:55:38,550
what said the best thing that can happen

1137
00:55:43,850 --> 00:55:41,430
it seems like the to the stars Academy

1138
00:55:46,610 --> 00:55:43,860
is holding at least the best hand right

1139
00:55:50,570 --> 00:55:46,620
now any kind of wild cards might get

1140
00:55:52,790 --> 00:55:50,580
played and what might happen that might

1141
00:55:54,170 --> 00:55:52,800
change things to get us a little bit

1142
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:54,180
more information a little bit more

1143
00:56:02,410 --> 00:55:57,210
quickly hmm there's some wild cards out

1144
00:56:07,970 --> 00:56:02,420
there there are several scenarios here

1145
00:56:11,870 --> 00:56:07,980
what are the reasons I think that the to

1146
00:56:15,590 --> 00:56:11,880
the Stars team elected to go ahead and

1147
00:56:18,910 --> 00:56:15,600
launch on October 11th as opposed to

1148
00:56:21,710 --> 00:56:18,920
waiting longer maybe even much longer

1149
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:21,720
until things died down is they have

1150
00:56:27,050 --> 00:56:24,450
another problem they have another

1151
00:56:30,039 --> 00:56:27,060
concern besides their public relations

1152
00:56:36,609 --> 00:56:34,930
and their desire to help is it our

1153
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:36,619
president isn't the only head of state

1154
00:56:42,130 --> 00:56:40,490
that could announce the et presence our

1155
00:56:45,549 --> 00:56:42,140
country is not the only country that has

1156
00:56:48,390 --> 00:56:45,559
Reebs of gun camera footage or other

1157
00:56:50,859 --> 00:56:48,400
evidence that would be rather persuasive

1158
00:56:53,950 --> 00:56:50,869
and for whatever reason nor the head of

1159
00:56:55,240 --> 00:56:53,960
state as made that move though a number

1160
00:57:00,700 --> 00:56:55,250
of other countries have done things

1161
00:57:04,210 --> 00:57:00,710
which were stimulating to the disclosure

1162
00:57:06,130 --> 00:57:04,220
process release of files many countries

1163
00:57:09,069 --> 00:57:06,140
probably almost over well over two dozen

1164
00:57:11,950 --> 00:57:09,079
countries have voluntarily released

1165
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:11,960
substantial files to the Internet the US

1166
00:57:17,650 --> 00:57:14,450
government has not done that not in that

1167
00:57:19,839 --> 00:57:17,660
fashion so that's a problem for that and

1168
00:57:22,529 --> 00:57:19,849
and and then they got me I'm kind of a

1169
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:22,539
problem for them too

1170
00:57:32,470 --> 00:57:26,930
two things the first of all it was PRG

1171
00:57:34,180 --> 00:57:32,480
that finally brought the clinton et

1172
00:57:37,839 --> 00:57:34,190
connection by the Rockefeller initiative

1173
00:57:40,210 --> 00:57:37,849
into the news into the news cycle when

1174
00:57:42,579 --> 00:57:40,220
she ran the second time ultimately

1175
00:57:44,490 --> 00:57:42,589
generated 400 articles about the

1176
00:57:47,140 --> 00:57:44,500
connection between her and the et issue

1177
00:57:48,549 --> 00:57:47,150
during the campaign which resulted in

1178
00:57:51,670 --> 00:57:48,559
their having to speak to the issue

1179
00:57:53,890 --> 00:57:51,680
eleven times and when I say today I mean

1180
00:57:57,690 --> 00:57:53,900
the team which included herself her

1181
00:57:59,829 --> 00:57:57,700
husband John Podesta and Barack Obama

1182
00:58:05,980 --> 00:57:59,839
and that's a precedent that never

1183
00:58:09,250 --> 00:58:05,990
happened before and as a result had the

1184
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:09,260
debate moderators passed brought up this

1185
00:58:12,970 --> 00:58:11,210
issue and that got into the debates I

1186
00:58:15,250 --> 00:58:12,980
think the story would have blown up

1187
00:58:17,109 --> 00:58:15,260
pretty big and we would have seen

1188
00:58:19,599 --> 00:58:17,119
disclosure under Obama which is the plan

1189
00:58:21,190 --> 00:58:19,609
all along but when the debate moderators

1190
00:58:24,910 --> 00:58:21,200
didn't even mention it to their

1191
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:24,920
everlasting shame they sort of got a

1192
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:27,770
pass there and we weren't going to see a

1193
00:58:33,069 --> 00:58:31,490
major blow-up during the 2016 but pretty

1194
00:58:35,609 --> 00:58:33,079
sure we were gonna see disclosure under

1195
00:58:39,099 --> 00:58:35,619
Clinton when she was in the White House

1196
00:58:40,870 --> 00:58:39,109
so there was that they were dealing with

1197
00:58:42,339 --> 00:58:40,880
that but they were dealing with

1198
00:58:47,289 --> 00:58:42,349
something else

1199
00:58:48,999 --> 00:58:47,299
for the last mile no 15 years I've done

1200
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:49,009
a lot of interviews I don't know how

1201
00:58:53,259 --> 00:58:50,930
many but it's it's it's somewhere

1202
00:58:56,309 --> 00:58:53,269
between maybe 12 and 15 under diner on

1203
00:58:59,739 --> 00:58:56,319
me well one of the things I almost never

1204
00:59:02,799 --> 00:58:59,749
failed to mention at least 50% of the

1205
00:59:05,259 --> 00:59:02,809
time maybe more is this point that other

1206
00:59:07,930 --> 00:59:05,269
heads of state could and the truth

1207
00:59:10,959 --> 00:59:07,940
embargo any time they wanted to and the

1208
00:59:14,370 --> 00:59:10,969
two most likely and the two most

1209
00:59:16,329 --> 00:59:14,380
concerning from the standpoint of the US

1210
00:59:18,370 --> 00:59:16,339
government's geopolitical interests

1211
00:59:22,469 --> 00:59:18,380
would be the president of China and a

1212
00:59:25,779 --> 00:59:22,479
president of Russia Xi Jinping and

1213
00:59:27,219 --> 00:59:25,789
Vladimir Putin but the one that they

1214
00:59:29,529 --> 00:59:27,229
need to be most concerned about is

1215
00:59:32,229 --> 00:59:29,539
Vladimir Putin and I have brought up

1216
00:59:34,900 --> 00:59:32,239
Putin over and over again in these

1217
00:59:36,609 --> 00:59:34,910
interviews you know I'm talking internet

1218
00:59:38,049 --> 00:59:36,619
radio who knows listening they could be

1219
00:59:40,569 --> 00:59:38,059
10 people could be a thousand they'll

1220
00:59:42,519 --> 00:59:40,579
knows I've also written about it but I

1221
00:59:44,469 --> 00:59:42,529
bring it up it's out there they know it

1222
00:59:48,420 --> 00:59:44,479
Putin knows it and I've been mentioning

1223
00:59:49,839 --> 00:59:48,430
it for a long time however in May of

1224
00:59:54,029 --> 00:59:49,849
2017

1225
00:59:57,249 --> 00:59:54,039
I left the country in April because well

1226
00:59:59,650 --> 00:59:57,259
frankly I was kind of upset and

1227
01:00:03,339 --> 00:59:59,660
disgusted and frankly just want to get

1228
01:00:05,589 --> 01:00:03,349
away I decided to explore international

1229
01:00:08,170 --> 01:00:05,599
options so I went to London I stayed

1230
01:00:10,809 --> 01:00:08,180
there about seven months overall but

1231
01:00:12,839 --> 01:00:10,819
virtually two weeks only about two weeks

1232
01:00:16,420 --> 01:00:12,849
after I arrived in April I got a call

1233
01:00:18,539 --> 01:00:16,430
from a Russian national television

1234
01:00:21,809 --> 01:00:18,549
network they wanted to interview me

1235
01:00:23,799 --> 01:00:21,819
which I don't think was an accident

1236
01:00:25,299 --> 01:00:23,809
and they were gonna have a crew

1237
01:00:26,769 --> 01:00:25,309
interviewed me in London and I said no

1238
01:00:28,930 --> 01:00:26,779
no no I'll interview but it'll have to

1239
01:00:30,699 --> 01:00:28,940
be in Moscow and they said fine you pay

1240
01:00:33,009 --> 01:00:30,709
your way it will be happy to interview

1241
01:00:34,719 --> 01:00:33,019
here and that's what I did I flew to

1242
01:00:37,029 --> 01:00:34,729
Moscow and May the 3rd and interviewed

1243
01:00:42,989 --> 01:00:37,039
immediately that morning for an hour and

1244
01:00:45,819 --> 01:00:42,999
a half for NTV re NTV about 400 stations

1245
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:45,829
throughout the Russian Federation and

1246
01:00:52,779 --> 01:00:51,170
about 120 million viewer base 3 popular

1247
01:00:55,180 --> 01:00:52,789
network though I mean very popular it's

1248
01:00:57,790 --> 01:00:55,190
got all the cool shows

1249
01:00:59,590 --> 01:00:57,800
and a diss interview which they

1250
01:01:02,380 --> 01:00:59,600
eventually use small parts of it in a

1251
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:02,390
cup in a show or two but that was months

1252
01:01:07,870 --> 01:01:05,530
later but it wasn't until I think

1253
01:01:10,030 --> 01:01:07,880
September or October that I actually got

1254
01:01:12,370 --> 01:01:10,040
the my copy or a copy of the

1255
01:01:13,900 --> 01:01:12,380
english-language version they used

1256
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:13,910
they'd they dubbed Russian over what

1257
01:01:18,310 --> 01:01:15,530
they is but I I I got the

1258
01:01:20,860 --> 01:01:18,320
english-language version and what they

1259
01:01:23,350 --> 01:01:20,870
didn't use and the reason why I went

1260
01:01:26,590 --> 01:01:23,360
there is that there was a I talked a lot

1261
01:01:30,190 --> 01:01:26,600
about Putin and XO politics and US

1262
01:01:31,570 --> 01:01:30,200
politics and Russian politics and no one

1263
01:01:33,610 --> 01:01:31,580
had ever done that before no one had

1264
01:01:36,510 --> 01:01:33,620
ever talks in this way or about the UFO

1265
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:36,520
issue and Putin on Russian media ever

1266
01:01:45,130 --> 01:01:42,050
let alone on Russia's soil and I knew in

1267
01:01:46,570 --> 01:01:45,140
addition to that I had six meetings with

1268
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:46,580
groups of people that were set up from

1269
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:48,650
me by a supporter with Russian

1270
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:50,690
connections with people that had worked

1271
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:53,530
in the Soviet and Russian government's

1272
01:01:58,110 --> 01:01:55,730
many of which had worked on the et issue

1273
01:02:01,210 --> 01:01:58,120
and I had six meetings with six groups

1274
01:02:04,060 --> 01:02:01,220
pretty much how you doing got a

1275
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:04,070
translator there meet and greet there's

1276
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:05,650
not you can't go into depth because

1277
01:02:10,780 --> 01:02:08,210
again I'm talking to four people and

1278
01:02:12,850 --> 01:02:10,790
I've got one translator and looking you

1279
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:12,860
doesn't matter I didn't care I knew that

1280
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:14,450
if I took those meetings that guarantee

1281
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:15,890
did the Kremlin would know it was there

1282
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:20,330
I knew the CIA knew I was there so and I

1283
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:21,650
was worried I might have a problem might

1284
01:02:25,180 --> 01:02:22,970
have a problem at the border going in

1285
01:02:26,890 --> 01:02:25,190
coming out but I didn't though I did try

1286
01:02:29,430 --> 01:02:26,900
to keep things on the down-low for a

1287
01:02:31,780 --> 01:02:29,440
while I did publish anything until I

1288
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:31,790
didn't really say anything until about

1289
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:33,170
three months later and did publish any

1290
01:02:39,700 --> 01:02:36,250
the interview until December January but

1291
01:02:41,740 --> 01:02:39,710
the point was this steve is that is that

1292
01:02:43,750 --> 01:02:41,750
the English version available and yeah

1293
01:02:45,490 --> 01:02:43,760
it's on my website you can go watch them

1294
01:02:54,430 --> 01:02:45,500
you can watch the whole Russian

1295
01:02:57,750 --> 01:02:54,440
interview what I was doing was raising

1296
01:03:03,370 --> 01:02:57,760
the bar right now raising the heat on

1297
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:03,380
the Putin disclosure issue I in other

1298
01:03:07,660 --> 01:03:05,570
words I went to another level

1299
01:03:08,980 --> 01:03:07,670
to try to make the point to my

1300
01:03:12,790 --> 01:03:08,990
government it doesn't

1301
01:03:13,780 --> 01:03:12,800
for advice oddly enough and that

1302
01:03:16,180 --> 01:03:13,790
included the White House and the

1303
01:03:18,130 --> 01:03:16,190
Pentagon that police understand

1304
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:18,140
gentlemen that Putin could do this

1305
01:03:23,410 --> 01:03:19,610
anytime he wants unless he's on your

1306
01:03:26,830 --> 01:03:23,420
payroll if he's working for you then we

1307
01:03:30,940 --> 01:03:26,840
don't have a problem but if he isn't you

1308
01:03:33,030 --> 01:03:30,950
have a huge problem because if you were

1309
01:03:36,370 --> 01:03:33,040
worried about your public relations

1310
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:36,380
dilemma should Hillary Clinton become

1311
01:03:41,170 --> 01:03:38,090
president disclose while you're all

1312
01:03:42,910 --> 01:03:41,180
sitting there holding the bag that's

1313
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:42,920
nothing compared to the problem you're

1314
01:03:47,109 --> 01:03:44,210
going to have if Letterman Putin

1315
01:03:48,250 --> 01:03:47,119
announces the et presence and you have

1316
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:48,260
to go in front of the American people

1317
01:03:52,870 --> 01:03:51,050
and explain why you've lied to him for

1318
01:03:55,359 --> 01:03:52,880
70 years and Vladimir Putin is the one

1319
01:03:57,700 --> 01:03:55,369
that finally told him the truth and I

1320
01:04:01,420 --> 01:03:57,710
have a feeling that may be the reason

1321
01:04:06,010 --> 01:04:01,430
why they decided that in spite of the

1322
01:04:09,940 --> 01:04:06,020
chaos going on they could just sit too

1323
01:04:11,650 --> 01:04:09,950
long on their projects progress and

1324
01:04:13,510 --> 01:04:11,660
needed to make a move which they did in

1325
01:04:16,540 --> 01:04:13,520
October he loved it I could be wrong but

1326
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:16,550
that's the wild card well let me add let

1327
01:04:21,940 --> 01:04:19,690
me ask you this what what do you

1328
01:04:24,940 --> 01:04:21,950
conjecture would be in it for cooking

1329
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:24,950
for him to do that well let's see he

1330
01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:27,050
would immediately achieve one of the

1331
01:04:32,650 --> 01:04:28,850
greatest if not the greatest political

1332
01:04:34,900 --> 01:04:32,660
legacies in all of human history Russia

1333
01:04:37,210 --> 01:04:34,910
would immediately send ascend to the top

1334
01:04:39,220 --> 01:04:37,220
of the the chart in terms of

1335
01:04:42,820 --> 01:04:39,230
geopolitical influence and the center of

1336
01:04:44,260 --> 01:04:42,830
the stage all of the issues he's dealing

1337
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:44,270
with and some of the negatives that he's

1338
01:04:50,349 --> 01:04:48,530
created would be swept aside the United

1339
01:04:53,380 --> 01:04:50,359
States would be removed drunk reduced

1340
01:04:54,849 --> 01:04:53,390
dramatically in stature he would be

1341
01:04:56,470 --> 01:04:54,859
getting all the glory while the White

1342
01:04:58,150 --> 01:04:56,480
House and the Pentagon would be getting

1343
01:05:02,140 --> 01:04:58,160
dumped on by every reporter in the

1344
01:05:03,670 --> 01:05:02,150
country as to why did you lie why did

1345
01:05:06,010 --> 01:05:03,680
you wait how is it we're learning this

1346
01:05:09,099 --> 01:05:06,020
from Putin it would be a geopolitical

1347
01:05:12,099 --> 01:05:09,109
public relations catastrophe and Putin

1348
01:05:14,410 --> 01:05:12,109
would love every second of it is that

1349
01:05:17,710 --> 01:05:14,420
you're suggesting it would be sort of

1350
01:05:20,410 --> 01:05:17,720
analogous to the Soviet Union getting a

1351
01:05:26,010 --> 01:05:20,420
Sputnik up into orbit before we got a

1352
01:05:33,190 --> 01:05:30,400
okay got it

1353
01:05:36,940 --> 01:05:33,200
I James what there what more do you have

1354
01:05:39,670 --> 01:05:36,950
for mr. Bassett here Oh Steve I heard in

1355
01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:39,680
a recent interview that you actually

1356
01:05:46,060 --> 01:05:43,730
work for dr. John Mac I worked at his

1357
01:05:48,060 --> 01:05:46,070
his organization Pierre

1358
01:05:54,430 --> 01:05:48,070
for about four months as a volunteer

1359
01:05:58,900 --> 01:05:54,440
January to may have 2019 96 yeah what do

1360
01:06:02,650 --> 01:05:58,910
you do under there come in and help I

1361
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:02,660
had some business background I I said

1362
01:06:07,510 --> 01:06:03,890
maybe I could be helpful in business

1363
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:07,520
development I was one of the reasons I

1364
01:06:11,230 --> 01:06:09,050
got into this field was because of his

1365
01:06:13,510 --> 01:06:11,240
book abduction I thought this would be a

1366
01:06:14,940 --> 01:06:13,520
very high level entrance and you know if

1367
01:06:16,990 --> 01:06:14,950
you're willing to volunteer you can

1368
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:17,000
oftentimes get involved in things

1369
01:06:21,730 --> 01:06:19,370
otherwise you couldn't and there was a

1370
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:21,740
very interesting four months I got to

1371
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:23,450
know some people I bet some contactees

1372
01:06:28,510 --> 01:06:27,290
but it wasn't my area and I'm not and I

1373
01:06:30,550 --> 01:06:28,520
just have a degree in physics I'm not

1374
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:30,560
I'm not an academic per se this is a

1375
01:06:35,860 --> 01:06:34,130
fine an academic organization and it

1376
01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:35,870
wasn't a really good fit I helped I did

1377
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:37,730
what I could but it was only so much I

1378
01:06:41,410 --> 01:06:39,290
could do and I realized I needed to move

1379
01:06:44,740 --> 01:06:41,420
on and that's when I went to Washington

1380
01:06:47,140 --> 01:06:44,750
in July of 1996 and set up paradigm

1381
01:06:52,060 --> 01:06:47,150
research group and decided to engage the

1382
01:06:54,130 --> 01:06:52,070
politics of this I wasn't no say when

1383
01:06:57,040 --> 01:06:54,140
you were when you were in the working

1384
01:07:00,070 --> 01:06:57,050
but for John Mac another peer group did

1385
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:00,080
you gain any insight into myth et

1386
01:07:14,470 --> 01:07:10,720
mmm good question I got I got stronger

1387
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:14,480
sense of the importance and validity of

1388
01:07:19,690 --> 01:07:18,050
the contact phenomena which I was pretty

1389
01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:19,700
convinced was was real I'd seen enough

1390
01:07:25,860 --> 01:07:24,050
right enough and I have no bias if you

1391
01:07:28,300 --> 01:07:25,870
don't have a bias on this and you just

1392
01:07:29,950 --> 01:07:28,310
logically analyze things and use a

1393
01:07:33,610 --> 01:07:29,960
scientific perspective it's not hard to

1394
01:07:36,130 --> 01:07:33,620
figure out it's true I got some more of

1395
01:07:39,430 --> 01:07:36,140
that but

1396
01:07:41,230 --> 01:07:39,440
it was mostly the energy guy and it just

1397
01:07:43,930 --> 01:07:41,240
gave me a tremendous amount of energy to

1398
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:43,940
be part of this in a real way and that

1399
01:07:51,790 --> 01:07:47,330
was helpful but it was while I was there

1400
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:51,800
and of course when I got there I arrived

1401
01:07:57,610 --> 01:07:55,250
right at the time that the Nova

1402
01:07:58,660 --> 01:07:57,620
documentary came out they had a team

1403
01:08:00,670 --> 01:07:58,670
from Nova decide they're gonna do a

1404
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:00,680
documentary on this issue and Mac and

1405
01:08:05,350 --> 01:08:02,690
we're featuring Mac and Hopkins so it's

1406
01:08:09,670 --> 01:08:05,360
gonna be a documentary on the on the

1407
01:08:11,290 --> 01:08:09,680
abduction phenomena that that at that

1408
01:08:13,330 --> 01:08:11,300
time I think I'd be fair to say that

1409
01:08:14,620 --> 01:08:13,340
Hopkins and Mac were the most identified

1410
01:08:20,140 --> 01:08:14,630
with that and of course Mac was a

1411
01:08:23,980 --> 01:08:20,150
Harvard trained psychiatrist and what

1412
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:23,990
happened is halfway through this probe a

1413
01:08:32,230 --> 01:08:29,330
project the higher-ups at Nova let the

1414
01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:32,240
producers know that they just didn't

1415
01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:34,250
want to do a documentary they wanted to

1416
01:08:41,860 --> 01:08:38,770
how would you say do a little debunking

1417
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:41,870
and so they wanted to they wanted to go

1418
01:08:49,140 --> 01:08:45,530
after Mack and Hopkins and the producer

1419
01:08:52,270 --> 01:08:49,150
quit the person that took her place

1420
01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:52,280
finishes in and and it came out and

1421
01:08:58,060 --> 01:08:55,970
virtually right as I arrived and of

1422
01:09:00,460 --> 01:08:58,070
course it was a hit piece on Mac and in

1423
01:09:02,530 --> 01:09:00,470
Hopkins one of the most disgraceful

1424
01:09:04,990 --> 01:09:02,540
things Melva ever did but believe me

1425
01:09:07,690 --> 01:09:05,000
it's part of an incredibly long line of

1426
01:09:10,750 --> 01:09:07,700
disgraceful things that institutions

1427
01:09:12,460 --> 01:09:10,760
people organizations colleges

1428
01:09:18,460 --> 01:09:12,470
universities are going to have to answer

1429
01:09:21,910 --> 01:09:18,470
for someday and I come to realize I came

1430
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:21,920
to realize and I'd already sort of

1431
01:09:25,900 --> 01:09:23,570
suspect I already sort of knew this but

1432
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:25,910
I really rocked it while I was there the

1433
01:09:29,530 --> 01:09:28,130
problem all along has not been a science

1434
01:09:31,650 --> 01:09:29,540
it hasn't been oh there's not enough

1435
01:09:33,910 --> 01:09:31,660
evidence it's not enough science no

1436
01:09:37,300 --> 01:09:33,920
there was plenty of evidence in plenty

1437
01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:37,310
of science the problem was political the

1438
01:09:41,410 --> 01:09:39,170
80 issue was wrapped up in a political

1439
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:41,420
decision on national security policy

1440
01:09:48,700 --> 01:09:44,210
that was literally preventing the truth

1441
01:09:49,899 --> 01:09:48,710
from being examined engaged studied by

1442
01:09:52,329 --> 01:09:49,909
the human race

1443
01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:52,339
and wrapped up in the Cold War and the

1444
01:09:58,060 --> 01:09:54,650
only way out of this was a political way

1445
01:09:59,200 --> 01:09:58,070
out and that's that was the most

1446
01:10:01,479 --> 01:09:59,210
important thing that happened to me

1447
01:10:03,010 --> 01:10:01,489
there and that's Valley I realized I'm

1448
01:10:04,419 --> 01:10:03,020
gonna go to Washington I can stay there

1449
01:10:05,830 --> 01:10:04,429
I had a place to live and I'm gonna

1450
01:10:08,050 --> 01:10:05,840
engage the political side of it in the

1451
01:10:10,060 --> 01:10:08,060
more way I can I didn't know how but I

1452
01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:10,070
knew the first thing I was gonna do is

1453
01:10:13,990 --> 01:10:11,690
register lobbyists cuz I knew that would

1454
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:14,000
get some news and it did I was off to

1455
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:16,489
the races so that's kind of what

1456
01:10:23,050 --> 01:10:19,250
happened in that getting back getting

1457
01:10:25,330 --> 01:10:23,060
back to the contact D issue we see from

1458
01:10:27,729 --> 01:10:25,340
Bigelow in the past some definite

1459
01:10:30,820 --> 01:10:27,739
interest there in that TDS has some

1460
01:10:33,189 --> 01:10:30,830
connections to all that but public yeah

1461
01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:33,199
for us we know that because we're into

1462
01:10:38,140 --> 01:10:36,290
it of course but publicly they're not

1463
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:38,150
touching that aspect of the phenomenon

1464
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:40,850
with a ten-foot all I think we all might

1465
01:10:45,189 --> 01:10:43,010
have our guesses as to why that is but I

1466
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:45,199
could I get your feedback on that sure

1467
01:10:49,689 --> 01:10:47,449
the contact phenomenon is the most

1468
01:10:52,750 --> 01:10:49,699
controversial and difficult aspect of

1469
01:10:54,490 --> 01:10:52,760
the whole thing anti-gravity drive is a

1470
01:10:58,060 --> 01:10:54,500
piece of cake compared to contact

1471
01:11:01,180 --> 01:10:58,070
phenomena it's it's at the core of the

1472
01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:01,190
ETA oh it's one of the core reasons why

1473
01:11:09,010 --> 01:11:05,449
the ETS are here and it's really intense

1474
01:11:12,250 --> 01:11:09,020
and a huge public relations problem for

1475
01:11:14,110 --> 01:11:12,260
the government because that's we all we

1476
01:11:15,729 --> 01:11:14,120
all know and I think they know that we

1477
01:11:18,580 --> 01:11:15,739
know and they know that we know that

1478
01:11:19,780 --> 01:11:18,590
they know that we know is that there's

1479
01:11:21,910 --> 01:11:19,790
not a damn thing they can do about it

1480
01:11:25,870 --> 01:11:21,920
and that's not a thing the government

1481
01:11:27,310 --> 01:11:25,880
likes to tell you but frankly of the

1482
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:27,320
things that the government does tell us

1483
01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:29,210
I don't consider it that harsh but

1484
01:11:35,890 --> 01:11:34,130
whatever so when I when I initiated my

1485
01:11:37,660 --> 01:11:35,900
political engagements I I stayed away

1486
01:11:40,629 --> 01:11:37,670
from the contact issue for years because

1487
01:11:41,910 --> 01:11:40,639
I knew how hard it was just to talk

1488
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:41,920
about the et issue

1489
01:11:46,390 --> 01:11:44,810
you bring up contact and you think some

1490
01:11:49,149 --> 01:11:46,400
poor congressman's heads go explode

1491
01:11:50,649 --> 01:11:49,159
right there like on that what was that

1492
01:11:53,470 --> 01:11:50,659
there was that movie where people's

1493
01:11:58,870 --> 01:11:53,480
heads explode dinners scanners exactly

1494
01:12:02,169 --> 01:11:58,880
so good good good good recall so it is

1495
01:12:03,690 --> 01:12:02,179
but eventually I realized I had taught

1496
01:12:06,420 --> 01:12:03,700
eventually had talked to so many car

1497
01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:06,430
Turkey's and was so good was completely

1498
01:12:10,170 --> 01:12:08,650
convinced of its truth I I just could

1499
01:12:12,660 --> 01:12:10,180
not leave them out of the picture I just

1500
01:12:14,310 --> 01:12:12,670
felt that to advocate for this issue and

1501
01:12:16,860 --> 01:12:14,320
try to act like the contact stuff was

1502
01:12:18,690 --> 01:12:16,870
just not there was a disservice to

1503
01:12:20,580 --> 01:12:18,700
everyone I couldn't do it so I've I've

1504
01:12:22,110 --> 01:12:20,590
brought it into by discussion that

1505
01:12:25,700 --> 01:12:22,120
doesn't mean that I shove it in front of

1506
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:25,710
everybody knows that I get in front of

1507
01:12:31,500 --> 01:12:28,930
but if the subject comes up I go there

1508
01:12:34,050 --> 01:12:31,510
and I do go there from time to time in

1509
01:12:35,790 --> 01:12:34,060
my presentations but my focus is on the

1510
01:12:39,300 --> 01:12:35,800
announcement of the et presence that's

1511
01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:39,310
simple the deal you know the contact

1512
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:41,290
these are not going to have their issues

1513
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:42,970
addressed until after disclosure right

1514
01:12:48,480 --> 01:12:44,530
now they're lucky thing get a little

1515
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:48,490
support from a support group on the

1516
01:12:53,610 --> 01:12:48,970
Internet

1517
01:12:56,600 --> 01:12:53,620
certainly but overall the truth and the

1518
01:12:58,410 --> 01:12:56,610
basis for why they're a contactee

1519
01:13:00,240 --> 01:12:58,420
they're not gonna be able to get to that

1520
01:13:01,860 --> 01:13:00,250
until after disclosure so disclosure is

1521
01:13:05,910 --> 01:13:01,870
the best thing needed to contact these

1522
01:13:07,350 --> 01:13:05,920
and so that's where we focus but yes

1523
01:13:08,750 --> 01:13:07,360
all right the to the stars Academy is

1524
01:13:12,900 --> 01:13:08,760
wise they're not they're not going there

1525
01:13:16,050 --> 01:13:12,910
it's already been out that we think and

1526
01:13:18,450 --> 01:13:16,060
maybe one has been confirmed that at

1527
01:13:20,750 --> 01:13:18,460
least two perhaps two of the people on

1528
01:13:22,860 --> 01:13:20,760
the to the stars team for contactees

1529
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:22,870
that is not going to surprise me their

1530
01:13:27,150 --> 01:13:24,730
contact ISA route government throughout

1531
01:13:29,090 --> 01:13:27,160
military throughout the White House

1532
01:13:32,420 --> 01:13:29,100
staff throughout the congressional staff

1533
01:13:35,730 --> 01:13:32,430
the percentages and numbers virtually

1534
01:13:37,230 --> 01:13:35,740
assure that obviously that doesn't mean

1535
01:13:40,530 --> 01:13:37,240
you're gonna say anything you're in the

1536
01:13:43,290 --> 01:13:40,540
closet and if you're a it's discussed it

1537
01:13:45,060 --> 01:13:43,300
said Jim semi van and Gary Nolan yeah I

1538
01:13:47,990 --> 01:13:45,070
think it's coming out it might be those

1539
01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:48,000
two they embodied me more than to

1540
01:13:52,980 --> 01:13:51,130
Pentagon you're a you're a bird colonel

1541
01:13:54,300 --> 01:13:52,990
and a contact II you're not gonna be

1542
01:13:57,150 --> 01:13:54,310
chatting about that over there water

1543
01:13:58,950 --> 01:13:57,160
cooler so but the very fact that they

1544
01:14:02,760 --> 01:13:58,960
exist inside government means that there

1545
01:14:04,170 --> 01:14:02,770
is a potential for an inside out process

1546
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:04,180
and inside out pressure on the truth

1547
01:14:08,070 --> 01:14:06,730
embargo and I believe that's a factor in

1548
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:08,080
the to the stars Academy team I believe

1549
01:14:11,580 --> 01:14:10,210
that one of the reasons there's 40 or 50

1550
01:14:13,950 --> 01:14:11,590
people in the side then military

1551
01:14:16,230 --> 01:14:13,960
intelligence complex backing up these 10

1552
01:14:17,500 --> 01:14:16,240
that are on the outside is because

1553
01:14:20,970 --> 01:14:17,510
someone per contact the

1554
01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:20,980
and that gives them a highly personal

1555
01:14:27,610 --> 01:14:23,930
reason why they want to be part of

1556
01:14:29,950 --> 01:14:27,620
solution not the problem and so I guess

1557
01:14:32,770 --> 01:14:29,960
you could say the truth will out

1558
01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:32,780
the truth is like the grass it will come

1559
01:14:37,330 --> 01:14:34,970
right up through a completely sea minute

1560
01:14:40,210 --> 01:14:37,340
sidewalk given enough time it always

1561
01:14:42,100 --> 01:14:40,220
comes out eventually and it's only about

1562
01:14:43,480 --> 01:14:42,110
how it's mostly about how much damage

1563
01:14:49,540 --> 01:14:43,490
will be done while the truth is

1564
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:49,550
suppressed so Steve we got you know

1565
01:14:53,380 --> 01:14:51,650
researchers have said that right now

1566
01:14:55,810 --> 01:14:53,390
we're we're going through what Robert

1567
01:14:57,670 --> 01:14:55,820
Bigelow has called confirmation not

1568
01:14:58,900 --> 01:14:57,680
necessarily to disclosure that we're

1569
01:15:01,870 --> 01:14:58,910
gonna go through this period of

1570
01:15:04,330 --> 01:15:01,880
confirmation hmm and and that disclosure

1571
01:15:07,530 --> 01:15:04,340
is gonna follow now do you think what

1572
01:15:10,330 --> 01:15:07,540
what to the Stars Academy is doing is is

1573
01:15:13,060 --> 01:15:10,340
like a soft disclosure or do you think

1574
01:15:17,740 --> 01:15:13,070
they're taking a step beyond that it's

1575
01:15:20,350 --> 01:15:17,750
all soft disclosure but some is harder

1576
01:15:22,030 --> 01:15:20,360
some some softs closures harder than

1577
01:15:24,370 --> 01:15:22,040
others also but it's all part of the

1578
01:15:27,750 --> 01:15:24,380
soft disclosure small deep process but

1579
01:15:32,140 --> 01:15:27,760
clearly it's a very powerful nature

1580
01:15:34,030 --> 01:15:32,150
there are two comments that have come

1581
01:15:38,110 --> 01:15:34,040
from this team that are extremely

1582
01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:38,120
important I believe and I don't I don't

1583
01:15:43,450 --> 01:15:40,250
I'm I think Chris Christopher Mellon

1584
01:15:45,820 --> 01:15:43,460
mate said this I don't but I haven't

1585
01:15:47,910 --> 01:15:45,830
pinpointed when where but I think he

1586
01:15:50,260 --> 01:15:47,920
said it because I just remember it

1587
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:50,270
passing in front of me however Louis

1588
01:15:55,180 --> 01:15:51,770
Elizondo was also said and I know

1589
01:15:57,580 --> 01:15:55,190
exactly where he said he was supposed to

1590
01:16:01,300 --> 01:15:57,590
speak at the International UFO Congress

1591
01:16:04,660 --> 01:16:01,310
conference in Fountain Hills back in

1592
01:16:08,890 --> 01:16:04,670
February however the team made a

1593
01:16:10,660 --> 01:16:08,900
decision that they were they were

1594
01:16:13,630 --> 01:16:10,670
starting to interact with the et

1595
01:16:16,450 --> 01:16:13,640
community which is I which I give them

1596
01:16:18,690 --> 01:16:16,460
credit for but they discovered the et

1597
01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:18,700
community is a very conflicted

1598
01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:23,090
frustrated bunch of people and dealing

1599
01:16:30,110 --> 01:16:25,970
with them was was going to be awkward

1600
01:16:36,220 --> 01:16:30,120
and potentially a threat to their

1601
01:16:40,490 --> 01:16:36,230
process and so they backed off and

1602
01:16:43,130 --> 01:16:40,500
pretty much have Reis Trat Ajay z'd

1603
01:16:46,070 --> 01:16:43,140
I think they're I think they're going to

1604
01:16:49,370 --> 01:16:46,080
you're they're gonna find a way to more

1605
01:16:52,010 --> 01:16:49,380
to interact with our world in a more

1606
01:16:55,490 --> 01:16:52,020
defined regulated way so don't be

1607
01:16:56,690 --> 01:16:55,500
surprised to learn about that but this

1608
01:16:58,730 --> 01:16:56,700
happened right about the time he'd

1609
01:17:01,070 --> 01:16:58,740
already committed to speak there which

1610
01:17:03,380 --> 01:17:01,080
means he'd have been open to questions

1611
01:17:05,450 --> 01:17:03,390
from the floor anything people wanted to

1612
01:17:06,830 --> 01:17:05,460
ask and they they realized no there's

1613
01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:06,840
just a lot of questions we don't want to

1614
01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:09,330
answer and can't answer and having to

1615
01:17:12,950 --> 01:17:10,770
give no comment it's just gonna stir

1616
01:17:15,380 --> 01:17:12,960
people up and so what they did was he

1617
01:17:20,450 --> 01:17:15,390
submitted a video which he responded to

1618
01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:20,460
pre submitted questions okay so that

1619
01:17:24,440 --> 01:17:22,290
video is up you can find it on my

1620
01:17:26,570 --> 01:17:24,450
website you can find it on youtube and

1621
01:17:29,180 --> 01:17:26,580
this is the it's about a 30-minute

1622
01:17:32,270 --> 01:17:29,190
interview or 30 minute day maybe 37

1623
01:17:34,700 --> 01:17:32,280
minutes and in this interview he says

1624
01:17:36,380 --> 01:17:34,710
something extremely important and again

1625
01:17:38,390 --> 01:17:36,390
Christopher Mellon I believe he said the

1626
01:17:41,270 --> 01:17:38,400
same thing and I will try to get the

1627
01:17:43,450 --> 01:17:41,280
exact context for that and I'm gonna

1628
01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:43,460
paraphrase it closely

1629
01:17:52,850 --> 01:17:49,290
the question is Louis are you concerned

1630
01:17:57,290 --> 01:17:52,860
that the actions that you were that the

1631
01:18:00,650 --> 01:17:57,300
to the Stars team is taking could result

1632
01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:00,660
in disclosure happening soon or right

1633
01:18:10,190 --> 01:18:05,850
away any time and his answer was that

1634
01:18:12,110 --> 01:18:10,200
would be fine with me now you have to

1635
01:18:15,830 --> 01:18:12,120
think about that answer for a second to

1636
01:18:22,130 --> 01:18:15,840
realize how important it is what he's

1637
01:18:25,690 --> 01:18:22,140
saying is that we want disclosure and we

1638
01:18:30,140 --> 01:18:25,700
want it now pretty much just like I do

1639
01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:30,150
probably you do but we we have to work

1640
01:18:37,190 --> 01:18:32,210
this through within certain parameters

1641
01:18:40,100 --> 01:18:37,200
we have no choice and so we're gonna do

1642
01:18:42,530 --> 01:18:40,110
what we can but if if if this triggers

1643
01:18:43,620 --> 01:18:42,540
and again there's mmm they're not the

1644
01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:43,630
only game in town

1645
01:18:49,620 --> 01:18:46,930
if this triggers disclosure that's fine

1646
01:18:53,310 --> 01:18:49,630
with us and so what that says is they

1647
01:18:55,620 --> 01:18:53,320
that their fundamental rate their their

1648
01:18:57,630 --> 01:18:55,630
fundamental goal here is the formal

1649
01:19:00,210 --> 01:18:57,640
announcement by heads of state of the et

1650
01:19:02,550 --> 01:19:00,220
presence and the end of the truth

1651
01:19:04,110 --> 01:19:02,560
embargo so that people could stuff so

1652
01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:04,120
they can stop spending so much time

1653
01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:07,810
trying to hide the you know the ball

1654
01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:09,970
under the you know play hide to seek

1655
01:19:14,580 --> 01:19:11,770
with American people and lie and also

1656
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:14,590
just be up comfortable and again two of

1657
01:19:18,330 --> 01:19:16,090
them now they've made that statement it

1658
01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:18,340
may be some more than have done that so

1659
01:19:25,070 --> 01:19:19,690
that that's important and that that

1660
01:19:28,310 --> 01:19:25,080
tells a lot yeah now with um Tom DeLonge

1661
01:19:31,380 --> 01:19:28,320
you know getting to talking about ETS

1662
01:19:33,780 --> 01:19:31,390
when when you hear him talk on different

1663
01:19:34,620 --> 01:19:33,790
you know when he was on coast coast or

1664
01:19:37,740 --> 01:19:34,630
fade to black

1665
01:19:39,990 --> 01:19:37,750
he doesn't when when somebody brings up

1666
01:19:42,570 --> 01:19:40,000
et he doesn't necessarily go there he'll

1667
01:19:44,220 --> 01:19:42,580
he alludes that it that it could be

1668
01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:44,230
something else and they're they're

1669
01:19:49,890 --> 01:19:45,730
trying to find a way to explain it to

1670
01:19:52,440 --> 01:19:49,900
the public so but he you know also again

1671
01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:52,450
he'll go on and it doesn't really sound

1672
01:19:56,490 --> 01:19:53,530
like when he's talking that he's

1673
01:19:59,750 --> 01:19:56,500
representing to the Stars Academy other

1674
01:20:02,280 --> 01:19:59,760
than what his his media function is I

1675
01:20:06,090 --> 01:20:02,290
think you're I wouldn't I wouldn't be

1676
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:06,100
assuming anything there tom has a public

1677
01:20:13,440 --> 01:20:09,730
presence completely independent of to

1678
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:13,450
the store he still is a musician in fact

1679
01:20:16,590 --> 01:20:15,010
it was you know there's some articles

1680
01:20:18,330 --> 01:20:16,600
just came out there Mac making music

1681
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:18,340
again because again I think things are

1682
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:20,650
kind of odd old for the to the stars

1683
01:20:27,300 --> 01:20:23,610
team but he's gonna be asked about this

1684
01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:27,310
he's not again he's not a thirty year

1685
01:20:33,390 --> 01:20:28,090
career

1686
01:20:34,020 --> 01:20:33,400
CIA guy he's not a PhD in in rocket

1687
01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:34,030
physics

1688
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:37,810
he's a autodidact musician and so he

1689
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:39,370
talks about this stuff he cut it gets

1690
01:20:48,210 --> 01:20:44,770
all over the map is he he is still I

1691
01:20:52,710 --> 01:20:48,220
consider the spokes person for the

1692
01:20:55,710 --> 01:20:52,720
overall project I think Louis Elizondo

1693
01:20:57,109 --> 01:20:55,720
is the interface he's a kind of a

1694
01:20:59,179 --> 01:20:57,119
workingman's

1695
01:21:01,009 --> 01:20:59,189
can Manny he's kind of a good interface

1696
01:21:04,639 --> 01:21:01,019
with general public I think melon is the

1697
01:21:08,109 --> 01:21:04,649
intellectual interface but I don't think

1698
01:21:18,529 --> 01:21:08,119
that I think but ultimately I mean to be

1699
01:21:21,139 --> 01:21:18,539
to be realistic these are this is a you

1700
01:21:23,299 --> 01:21:21,149
know the words Tom did not drag the

1701
01:21:27,770 --> 01:21:23,309
Pentagon and the military intelligence

1702
01:21:31,100 --> 01:21:27,780
complex into this project he didn't pick

1703
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:31,110
them they picked him but he got picked

1704
01:21:38,469 --> 01:21:34,610
because he he was in front of them

1705
01:21:42,859 --> 01:21:38,479
engaging he was there and there was a

1706
01:21:45,919 --> 01:21:42,869
use there was a symbiosis there they

1707
01:21:49,689 --> 01:21:45,929
could work with ultimately though he's

1708
01:21:53,509 --> 01:21:49,699
the it is the the team it's it's the

1709
01:21:55,669 --> 01:21:53,519
others that may emerge that are going to

1710
01:21:58,879 --> 01:21:55,679
be formulating the strategies and

1711
01:22:03,319 --> 01:21:58,889
projects here and Tom's overall

1712
01:22:05,689 --> 01:22:03,329
influence will become probably since but

1713
01:22:07,489 --> 01:22:05,699
get in terms of the media stuff he's the

1714
01:22:08,810 --> 01:22:07,499
one that has these great gifts getting

1715
01:22:10,580 --> 01:22:08,820
people to write books with him and

1716
01:22:11,899 --> 01:22:10,590
knocking him out he may work on

1717
01:22:14,719 --> 01:22:11,909
documentaries I mean he's gonna be able

1718
01:22:17,569 --> 01:22:14,729
to do that stuff but the intellectual

1719
01:22:19,909 --> 01:22:17,579
component and the high-end strategic

1720
01:22:22,100 --> 01:22:19,919
component of what we'll call the small D

1721
01:22:24,919 --> 01:22:22,110
disclosure going on that is going to be

1722
01:22:31,299 --> 01:22:24,929
directed by the the people in the team

1723
01:22:38,299 --> 01:22:35,239
you know see some people commented on a

1724
01:22:40,159 --> 01:22:38,309
on Tom getting back into the music and

1725
01:22:42,529 --> 01:22:40,169
they're like oh well maybe to the stars

1726
01:22:44,509 --> 01:22:42,539
isn't what it was hype up to be in he's

1727
01:22:46,969 --> 01:22:44,519
kind of you know taking a step back but

1728
01:22:48,709 --> 01:22:46,979
when you look at it you know like you

1729
01:22:52,069 --> 01:22:48,719
said tom is running the media function

1730
01:22:55,219 --> 01:22:52,079
but the brains and the operation behind

1731
01:22:57,080 --> 01:22:55,229
are clearly not organized by him which

1732
01:23:00,199 --> 01:22:57,090
which is like everybody is there for

1733
01:23:02,509 --> 01:23:00,209
their role yeah I mean remember as some

1734
01:23:04,069 --> 01:23:02,519
avance said there's 40 maybe more people

1735
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:04,079
inside the Pentagon that are sort of

1736
01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:08,010
supporting this and and that group came

1737
01:23:13,670 --> 01:23:10,290
together and decided who

1738
01:23:15,650 --> 01:23:13,680
amongst them was going to who was going

1739
01:23:17,330 --> 01:23:15,660
to be on the on the public team who's

1740
01:23:19,130 --> 01:23:17,340
going to be the public face of this and

1741
01:23:21,140 --> 01:23:19,140
I think that the people that were going

1742
01:23:22,370 --> 01:23:21,150
to be the public face that were

1743
01:23:23,480 --> 01:23:22,380
announced in October were not

1744
01:23:26,930 --> 01:23:23,490
necessarily the same they were going to

1745
01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:26,940
be announced in 2016 after Hillary won

1746
01:23:37,940 --> 01:23:31,890
and I thought so

1747
01:23:40,250 --> 01:23:37,950
but I people I look I mantas for 22

1748
01:23:42,500 --> 01:23:40,260
years nobody wants to see this over more

1749
01:23:49,010 --> 01:23:42,510
than I but people need to have patience

1750
01:23:54,340 --> 01:23:49,020
here and again being a learning framed

1751
01:23:59,690 --> 01:23:54,350
mode learn gather information understand

1752
01:24:02,180 --> 01:23:59,700
and and not jump or jump on board every

1753
01:24:04,310 --> 01:24:02,190
critic that comes along on this listen

1754
01:24:07,220 --> 01:24:04,320
to their arguments and so forth but I

1755
01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:07,230
would just immediately attach themselves

1756
01:24:14,050 --> 01:24:10,170
to this theory or that theory because no

1757
01:24:18,110 --> 01:24:14,060
one knows enough about this project

1758
01:24:20,410 --> 01:24:18,120
we're dealing with an iceberg here the

1759
01:24:22,820 --> 01:24:20,420
majority of it is still underwater

1760
01:24:27,590 --> 01:24:22,830
that's my advice people who'll take it

1761
01:24:30,590 --> 01:24:27,600
or they will take it we're trying to do

1762
01:24:32,180 --> 01:24:30,600
yeah mm-hmm yeah and I'm glad to have

1763
01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:32,190
the opportunity and this is one of my

1764
01:24:36,050 --> 01:24:34,410
key roles right now is is trying to put

1765
01:24:39,230 --> 01:24:36,060
proper perspective on these developments

1766
01:24:41,270 --> 01:24:39,240
we're very difficult to fall well Steve

1767
01:24:42,470 --> 01:24:41,280
we certainly have enjoyed having you I

1768
01:24:45,770 --> 01:24:42,480
do you have anything else for Steve

1769
01:24:49,070 --> 01:24:45,780
there there a gym yeah just got one more

1770
01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:49,080
thing what about I know you were talking

1771
01:24:52,070 --> 01:24:50,970
about Congress and it's being a mess and

1772
01:24:55,430 --> 01:24:52,080
with the current administration and

1773
01:25:00,040 --> 01:24:55,440
everything like that in the near future

1774
01:25:02,300 --> 01:25:00,050
you know possibly with further

1775
01:25:03,650 --> 01:25:02,310
developments from to the stars academy

1776
01:25:05,930 --> 01:25:03,660
of the department defense in whatever

1777
01:25:08,090 --> 01:25:05,940
positions they take in whatever releases

1778
01:25:12,950 --> 01:25:08,100
may happen you think we'll we'll see

1779
01:25:14,660 --> 01:25:12,960
another kind of tweet storm or another

1780
01:25:15,800 --> 01:25:14,670
National Press Club conference or

1781
01:25:21,650 --> 01:25:15,810
anything like that given the right

1782
01:25:23,030 --> 01:25:21,660
momentum or time well who knows I can't

1783
01:25:24,229 --> 01:25:23,040
I can't speak for other people I mean

1784
01:25:25,700 --> 01:25:24,239
certainly

1785
01:25:27,859 --> 01:25:25,710
the money's there people want to do it

1786
01:25:29,810 --> 01:25:27,869
they'll do it I don't have the funds

1787
01:25:33,379 --> 01:25:29,820
right now but I can tell you what I'm

1788
01:25:34,759 --> 01:25:33,389
gonna do and by the other way too but

1789
01:25:37,399 --> 01:25:34,769
yeah and then before I do that let me

1790
01:25:42,229 --> 01:25:37,409
just mention think of the truth embargo

1791
01:25:46,959 --> 01:25:42,239
as a balloon filled with all the

1792
01:25:51,009 --> 01:25:46,969
information you want and you've got a

1793
01:25:55,580 --> 01:25:51,019
it's not a needle you got a pencil and

1794
01:25:58,069 --> 01:25:55,590
you're pushing on that balloon all that

1795
01:26:01,279 --> 01:25:58,079
soft disclosure that's coming out it's

1796
01:26:04,879 --> 01:26:01,289
just increasing the pressure on that

1797
01:26:06,709 --> 01:26:04,889
balloon and that pencil you don't know

1798
01:26:08,899 --> 01:26:06,719
exactly when it's gonna pop but you know

1799
01:26:10,729 --> 01:26:08,909
that if there's a pressure point when

1800
01:26:13,910 --> 01:26:10,739
you reach it that balloons gonna pop and

1801
01:26:15,529 --> 01:26:13,920
that's what's going on the pressure on

1802
01:26:18,439 --> 01:26:15,539
the balloon is increasing the peso

1803
01:26:20,959 --> 01:26:18,449
pencil coin is bearing in on that rubber

1804
01:26:22,700 --> 01:26:20,969
and at some point it's gonna pop it and

1805
01:26:24,950 --> 01:26:22,710
when it pops it pops immediately it's

1806
01:26:26,419 --> 01:26:24,960
boom that's disclosure it'll happen like

1807
01:26:28,040 --> 01:26:26,429
that that's the way to think about it

1808
01:26:30,319 --> 01:26:28,050
now let me tell you what's going on in

1809
01:26:32,629 --> 01:26:30,329
my world and what's happening here

1810
01:26:34,100 --> 01:26:32,639
I mean I'm back in the game I was sort

1811
01:26:36,649 --> 01:26:34,110
of out of the country for seven months

1812
01:26:38,419 --> 01:26:36,659
the to the Stars Academy was announced

1813
01:26:39,770 --> 01:26:38,429
while I was in October all my colleagues

1814
01:26:43,370 --> 01:26:39,780
were getting on TV all over the place

1815
01:26:45,919 --> 01:26:43,380
and I went I was nowhere but I'm back

1816
01:26:49,489 --> 01:26:45,929
alright I'm scheduled for 16 CompTIA's

1817
01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:49,499
already done six or five Wow I got 11

1818
01:26:54,680 --> 01:26:53,010
more to go so first and foremost while I

1819
01:26:56,839 --> 01:26:54,690
was in London I made the decision it was

1820
01:26:59,959 --> 01:26:56,849
time to do a documentary that I need

1821
01:27:01,729 --> 01:26:59,969
that needed to be done and the

1822
01:27:04,279 --> 01:27:01,739
documentary would be the first political

1823
01:27:05,720 --> 01:27:04,289
doc ever really done on this issue and

1824
01:27:08,270 --> 01:27:05,730
it would cover the whole political

1825
01:27:12,140 --> 01:27:08,280
history from 93 through the election of

1826
01:27:12,589 --> 01:27:12,150
2016 including an epilogue about to the

1827
01:27:15,680 --> 01:27:12,599
stars

1828
01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:15,690
and its political consequences the doc

1829
01:27:21,049 --> 01:27:17,730
is called disclosure and a team has been

1830
01:27:21,739 --> 01:27:21,059
put together there is a website and it's

1831
01:27:25,069 --> 01:27:21,749
disclosure

1832
01:27:26,899 --> 01:27:25,079
dot film there is a teaser up and it's

1833
01:27:31,640 --> 01:27:26,909
just a sauna it's just a teaser so no

1834
01:27:33,259 --> 01:27:31,650
it's not a trailer and we're raising a

1835
01:27:37,189 --> 01:27:33,269
little raising some money ultimately we

1836
01:27:44,549 --> 01:27:43,049
however we're while we're good I'll be

1837
01:27:46,229 --> 01:27:44,559
mentioned in this documentary and I've

1838
01:27:48,719 --> 01:27:46,239
got links up on my site and of course

1839
01:27:51,029 --> 01:27:48,729
that the site is up we're sort of laying

1840
01:27:52,949 --> 01:27:51,039
back in the weeds now we're not going to

1841
01:27:55,020 --> 01:27:52,959
be bugging people for money really

1842
01:27:57,689 --> 01:27:55,030
though if a big donor turns up I assure

1843
01:27:58,979 --> 01:27:57,699
you we if we get a hundred thousand we

1844
01:28:01,559 --> 01:27:58,989
will definitely go into production

1845
01:28:03,839 --> 01:28:01,569
whenever that is but because of the

1846
01:28:05,849 --> 01:28:03,849
political chaos trying to get attention

1847
01:28:07,619 --> 01:28:05,859
of people and meeting everything else is

1848
01:28:10,649 --> 01:28:07,629
like running into a running into a

1849
01:28:13,379 --> 01:28:10,659
hundred mile an hour wind and you just

1850
01:28:18,089 --> 01:28:13,389
expend your energy and so we're gonna

1851
01:28:20,939 --> 01:28:18,099
sort of a lie low and re-intensify this

1852
01:28:24,509 --> 01:28:20,949
documentaries reality to the public in

1853
01:28:26,399 --> 01:28:24,519
the media after the midterm election but

1854
01:28:29,250 --> 01:28:26,409
it's up it's out there and we're

1855
01:28:33,109 --> 01:28:29,260
welcoming funding disclosure dot film

1856
01:28:35,819 --> 01:28:33,119
and that's the major project that PRG

1857
01:28:38,909 --> 01:28:35,829
hopes to do which could have significant

1858
01:28:40,409 --> 01:28:38,919
impact on the disclosure process because

1859
01:28:42,089 --> 01:28:40,419
we we're gonna do everything we can to

1860
01:28:47,099 --> 01:28:42,099
get it mainstream theaters a la

1861
01:28:48,929 --> 01:28:47,109
Fahrenheit 9/11 so there's that the new

1862
01:28:52,829 --> 01:28:48,939
website is up it's been completely

1863
01:28:56,040 --> 01:28:52,839
remodeled same same MO domain but it's

1864
01:28:58,529 --> 01:28:56,050
it's the old site was well ancient

1865
01:29:00,509 --> 01:28:58,539
aliens is what it was the site is

1866
01:29:02,969 --> 01:29:00,519
fantastic it's got a huge amount of

1867
01:29:05,279 --> 01:29:02,979
material it's easily accessible Moore's

1868
01:29:07,619 --> 01:29:05,289
going up all the time and so that net

1869
01:29:09,479 --> 01:29:07,629
projects underway plus I have a blog

1870
01:29:11,909 --> 01:29:09,489
which is part of that website the

1871
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:11,919
disclosure wire blog that's my first

1872
01:29:16,709 --> 01:29:14,050
blog I waited 25 years after the

1873
01:29:21,979 --> 01:29:16,719
internet arrived to do a blog I just

1874
01:29:28,799 --> 01:29:21,989
wasn't in a hurry and then there's more

1875
01:29:31,409 --> 01:29:28,809
in five days the the the 13th season and

1876
01:29:35,250 --> 01:29:31,419
the most successful show dealing with

1877
01:29:39,419 --> 01:29:35,260
ETS will premiere its 13th season that's

1878
01:29:42,929 --> 01:29:39,429
ancient aliens and lo and behold I

1879
01:29:46,709 --> 01:29:42,939
finally made it as an ancient alien

1880
01:29:48,239 --> 01:29:46,719
alumnus this two-hour special it's got

1881
01:29:50,250 --> 01:29:48,249
to have a lot of disclosure stuff in it

1882
01:29:52,170 --> 01:29:50,260
and I expect to be in it

1883
01:29:55,110 --> 01:29:52,180
fairly prominently so that's going to

1884
01:29:59,460 --> 01:29:55,120
air on the twenty-seventh History

1885
01:30:01,950 --> 01:29:59,470
Channel 9 p.m. Eastern 8 central now

1886
01:30:04,980 --> 01:30:01,960
that is followed in June by alien cod

1887
01:30:08,700 --> 01:30:04,990
alien con is this big I guess you could

1888
01:30:09,870 --> 01:30:08,710
call it entertainment media type event a

1889
01:30:13,680 --> 01:30:09,880
comic-con

1890
01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:13,690
type event that has been out this had a

1891
01:30:17,250 --> 01:30:15,010
couple of those and that's backed by

1892
01:30:20,910 --> 01:30:17,260
History Channel na any networks any

1893
01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:20,920
network going on they have huge turnouts

1894
01:30:32,190 --> 01:30:27,850
15,000 people the next one is a June 15

1895
01:30:34,850 --> 01:30:32,200
to 17 approximately I guess two months

1896
01:30:36,990 --> 01:30:34,860
maybe eight weeks seven weeks after the

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01:30:39,720 --> 01:30:37,000
premiere of History Channel and they'll

1898
01:30:42,660 --> 01:30:39,730
be advertising alien con on ancient

1899
01:30:44,100 --> 01:30:42,670
aliens throughout April and May probably

1900
01:30:46,440 --> 01:30:44,110
going to be 20,000 people at the

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01:30:49,740 --> 01:30:46,450
Pasadena Convention Center in Pasadena

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01:30:52,440 --> 01:30:49,750
California June 15 to 17 I will be there

1903
01:30:55,050 --> 01:30:52,450
I will be speaking and paneling and

1904
01:30:56,970 --> 01:30:55,060
whatever else they want me to do and so

1905
01:30:58,950 --> 01:30:56,980
that's happening also though prior to

1906
01:31:01,620 --> 01:30:58,960
that of June Jude 1:00 to 4:00 I'm gonna

1907
01:31:05,070 --> 01:31:01,630
be in Indian Wells for the contact in

1908
01:31:07,470 --> 01:31:05,080
the desert event sir third one or fourth

1909
01:31:09,540 --> 01:31:07,480
one they've moved from Joshua Tree

1910
01:31:11,730 --> 01:31:09,550
because Joshua Tree Resort could not

1911
01:31:14,370 --> 01:31:11,740
handle the numbers they were getting up

1912
01:31:19,230 --> 01:31:14,380
towards 3000 so now they've gone south

1913
01:31:21,810 --> 01:31:19,240
to Indian Wells east of Palm Springs any

1914
01:31:23,820 --> 01:31:21,820
Wales resort huge huge place probably

1915
01:31:27,060 --> 01:31:23,830
gonna have 1,500 maybe 2,000 or more

1916
01:31:30,680 --> 01:31:27,070
people at the contact in the desert I

1917
01:31:37,890 --> 01:31:30,690
will be speaking there paneling so forth

1918
01:31:40,860 --> 01:31:37,900
I'm also going to be at the architects

1919
01:31:42,320 --> 01:31:40,870
of the new paradigm conference which

1920
01:31:44,160 --> 01:31:42,330
this year is going to be in Vancouver

1921
01:31:46,290 --> 01:31:44,170
June 30

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01:31:53,400 --> 01:31:46,300
that's quite a lineup I encourage people

1923
01:31:56,280 --> 01:31:53,410
to to check that out it's in Vancouver

1924
01:31:58,380 --> 01:31:56,290
which is an incredible City and you've

1925
01:31:59,730 --> 01:31:58,390
got again my website paradigm research

1926
01:32:01,460 --> 01:31:59,740
group that org you can go to the

1927
01:32:03,200 --> 01:32:01,470
conferences or I go to my speaking

1928
01:32:07,040 --> 01:32:03,210
schedule and you

1929
01:32:11,290 --> 01:32:07,050
and see all these things and so that's

1930
01:32:15,380 --> 01:32:11,300
just some of what's coming up for PRG

1931
01:32:17,300 --> 01:32:15,390
this year and hopefully and maybe a few

1932
01:32:18,920 --> 01:32:17,310
other projects will emerge and you've

1933
01:32:20,540 --> 01:32:18,930
got a newsletter to that I've been a

1934
01:32:23,150 --> 01:32:20,550
subscriber to for years it's really

1935
01:32:25,130 --> 01:32:23,160
fantastic how could somebody get on your

1936
01:32:27,950 --> 01:32:25,140
newsletter list so the paradigm research

1937
01:32:29,270 --> 01:32:27,960
group updates yeah if you go to paradigm

1938
01:32:31,370 --> 01:32:29,280
research group go to work there's a

1939
01:32:35,240 --> 01:32:31,380
there's links there to subscribe to it

1940
01:32:38,360 --> 01:32:35,250
and so just go there go to the website

1941
01:32:42,760 --> 01:32:38,370
subscribe to the newsletter you won't

1942
01:32:45,260 --> 01:32:42,770
get a lot but I I do put them out

1943
01:32:47,360 --> 01:32:45,270
generally once a month I usually see

1944
01:32:50,120 --> 01:32:47,370
something sometimes you know might be

1945
01:32:52,300 --> 01:32:50,130
once a week for a while but all the past

1946
01:32:56,960 --> 01:32:52,310
ones are archived back all these years

1947
01:32:59,900 --> 01:32:56,970
so um that's how you get on the website

1948
01:33:02,230 --> 01:32:59,910
that is well worth it and we've got a

1949
01:33:04,730 --> 01:33:02,240
screen grab from the disclosure

1950
01:33:08,510 --> 01:33:04,740
documentary you've got coming up with

1951
01:33:10,010 --> 01:33:08,520
the web address right on there so folks

1952
01:33:13,370 --> 01:33:10,020
should be able to find that nice and

1953
01:33:15,500 --> 01:33:13,380
easy Steve this was a fantastic

1954
01:33:18,470 --> 01:33:15,510
interview I certainly enjoyed it now

1955
01:33:22,430 --> 01:33:18,480
learn quite a few things too well I hope

1956
01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:22,440
so and I appreciate your your time and

1957
01:33:31,160 --> 01:33:26,970
and again these your your shows like

1958
01:33:34,670 --> 01:33:31,170
yours have been incredibly important to

1959
01:33:36,950 --> 01:33:34,680
the disclosure process and it's the good

1960
01:33:39,260 --> 01:33:36,960
fortune of the movement that the

1961
01:33:42,020 --> 01:33:39,270
internet made all this possible you know

1962
01:33:47,930 --> 01:33:42,030
all hail broadcast calm if you can

1963
01:33:50,600 --> 01:33:47,940
remember back that far so because of the

1964
01:33:52,420 --> 01:33:50,610
internet radio reality is why I've done

1965
01:33:55,370 --> 01:33:52,430
twelve thirteen hundred interviews I

1966
01:33:59,450 --> 01:33:55,380
assure you I wouldn't get that many on

1967
01:34:01,430 --> 01:33:59,460
ABC News and I get asked back on those

1968
01:34:02,720 --> 01:34:01,440
shows anymore I was but I kept coming on

1969
01:34:04,730 --> 01:34:02,730
and telling the truth and it going oh

1970
01:34:06,740 --> 01:34:04,740
god we can't have somebody to that and

1971
01:34:08,500 --> 01:34:06,750
so they haven't called in a while but

1972
01:34:13,490 --> 01:34:08,510
I'm hoping that that'll change here soon

1973
01:34:16,850 --> 01:34:13,500
so these shows but these shows do

1974
01:34:19,400 --> 01:34:16,860
something that the the old paradigm did

1975
01:34:22,010 --> 01:34:19,410
you you would do an interview maybe on

1976
01:34:25,430 --> 01:34:22,020
NBC News and it would go into the

1977
01:34:28,250 --> 01:34:25,440
interview news vault that was it there's

1978
01:34:29,840 --> 01:34:28,260
no internet and then if somebody wanted

1979
01:34:32,750 --> 01:34:29,850
it they could go pay them thousands of

1980
01:34:37,070 --> 01:34:32,760
dollars and that's how you might get

1981
01:34:39,230 --> 01:34:37,080
access to that interview now you do an

1982
01:34:41,810 --> 01:34:39,240
interview on internet radio and then it

1983
01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:41,820
gets archived on the website and it

1984
01:34:46,100 --> 01:34:44,010
stays there indefinitely and not only

1985
01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:46,110
that but it becomes a link in the Google

1986
01:34:50,300 --> 01:34:48,330
search BOTS and so now that these

1987
01:34:51,800 --> 01:34:50,310
interviews just spread then they turn

1988
01:34:56,750 --> 01:34:51,810
then they start turning up on YouTube

1989
01:34:58,820 --> 01:34:56,760
and so essentially you don't eighty

1990
01:35:01,720 --> 01:34:58,830
issue is not the only instance of this

1991
01:35:04,550 --> 01:35:01,730
of course but the result is is that the

1992
01:35:06,740 --> 01:35:04,560
extra-terrestrial issue and particularly

1993
01:35:12,080 --> 01:35:06,750
the disclosure and truth embargo issues

1994
01:35:14,480 --> 01:35:12,090
are all over the internet and you guys

1995
01:35:17,210 --> 01:35:14,490
are the reason for that you and all your

1996
01:35:20,870 --> 01:35:17,220
your cohorts who have said hey I'm gonna

1997
01:35:23,450 --> 01:35:20,880
I'm gonna have a radio program and so

1998
01:35:24,710 --> 01:35:23,460
believe me I appreciate it and one day I

1999
01:35:26,330 --> 01:35:24,720
know you're all gonna be acknowledged

2000
01:35:28,850 --> 01:35:26,340
for the contribution you made to what

2001
01:35:30,650 --> 01:35:28,860
will be the most profound event in the

2002
01:35:32,480 --> 01:35:30,660
history so that's what we're working

2003
01:35:36,140 --> 01:35:32,490
towards and if we didn't like it we

2004
01:35:37,790 --> 01:35:36,150
wouldn't do it you know yeah because you

2005
01:35:42,800 --> 01:35:37,800
gotta like it man

2006
01:35:43,580 --> 01:35:42,810
you got anybody who's had a sighting or

2007
01:35:46,760 --> 01:35:43,590
something like that

2008
01:35:48,320 --> 01:35:46,770
you're on absolutely absolutely and

2009
01:35:51,470 --> 01:35:48,330
looking forward to seeing you on ancient

2010
01:35:53,960 --> 01:35:51,480
aliens that is a show I think is stood

2011
01:35:55,640 --> 01:35:53,970
the test of time basically because they

2012
01:35:57,710 --> 01:35:55,650
get something that a lot of the other

2013
01:36:01,310 --> 01:35:57,720
shows don't that stay very dark with

2014
01:36:04,220 --> 01:36:01,320
this very conspiratorial and those guys

2015
01:36:07,130 --> 01:36:04,230
have the enthusiasm for the subject that

2016
01:36:09,620 --> 01:36:07,140
comes through and their rings through

2017
01:36:12,050 --> 01:36:09,630
like a bell and I think that is the

2018
01:36:15,950 --> 01:36:12,060
secret to their success they're into it

2019
01:36:18,860 --> 01:36:15,960
they're enthusiastic about it and I wish

2020
01:36:20,990 --> 01:36:18,870
more shows would would steal that from

2021
01:36:23,060 --> 01:36:21,000
them frankly well in the and the aliens

2022
01:36:26,070 --> 01:36:23,070
are ancient as opposed to the ones

2023
01:36:28,050 --> 01:36:26,080
coming into your bedroom on Friday night

2024
01:36:31,350 --> 01:36:28,060
you know I have no problem with that so

2025
01:36:34,050 --> 01:36:31,360
it is it has introduced the subject

2026
01:36:36,510 --> 01:36:34,060
I don't want old millions of people in a

2027
01:36:38,760 --> 01:36:36,520
comfortable way entertaining interesting

2028
01:36:42,030 --> 01:36:38,770
it has explored these ancient

2029
01:36:44,130 --> 01:36:42,040
connections which I think are real you

2030
01:36:45,560 --> 01:36:44,140
know it's all are all of the assertions

2031
01:36:48,420 --> 01:36:45,570
that they're making on the show gonna

2032
01:36:51,660 --> 01:36:48,430
prove true now of course not most of

2033
01:36:54,450 --> 01:36:51,670
them were some of them will but the show

2034
01:36:57,060 --> 01:36:54,460
is I think you know been a bit of huge

2035
01:36:58,770 --> 01:36:57,070
asset and I'm just pleased to finally

2036
01:37:03,330 --> 01:36:58,780
get on it after twelve years you know I

2037
01:37:04,200 --> 01:37:03,340
mean I figure yeah patience and if

2038
01:37:06,270 --> 01:37:04,210
they're if they're gonna start

2039
01:37:09,360 --> 01:37:06,280
emphasizing disclosure all the better I

2040
01:37:12,420 --> 01:37:09,370
mean believe me there are plenty of

2041
01:37:15,480 --> 01:37:12,430
people in Oregon is a look in the space

2042
01:37:19,020 --> 01:37:15,490
of just ten days back in January I got I

2043
01:37:21,690 --> 01:37:19,030
got calls from three showrunners two two

2044
01:37:24,690 --> 01:37:21,700
related to the History Channel saying

2045
01:37:27,380 --> 01:37:24,700
you know we're doing a show and it's

2046
01:37:29,670 --> 01:37:27,390
gonna have an emphasis on disclosure

2047
01:37:30,360 --> 01:37:29,680
well and we're wondering if you want to

2048
01:37:32,040 --> 01:37:30,370
be part of it

2049
01:37:33,810 --> 01:37:32,050
let me tell you I wasn't getting calls

2050
01:37:35,460 --> 01:37:33,820
like that before and so you've got

2051
01:37:38,100 --> 01:37:35,470
you've got and you've got you've got a

2052
01:37:40,050 --> 01:37:38,110
series soul too History Channel by Bob

2053
01:37:42,930 --> 01:37:40,060
Zemeckis major player in Hollywood

2054
01:37:45,840 --> 01:37:42,940
a-lister on Blue Book

2055
01:37:48,300 --> 01:37:45,850
look their producers and directors

2056
01:37:50,010 --> 01:37:48,310
writers and shows and organizations and

2057
01:37:52,980 --> 01:37:50,020
corporations out there that smell

2058
01:37:56,010 --> 01:37:52,990
disclosure coming and they want to get

2059
01:37:57,120 --> 01:37:56,020
on the bandwagon excitement is raising

2060
01:38:00,120 --> 01:37:57,130
and if it wasn't for the political

2061
01:38:02,790 --> 01:38:00,130
Maelstrom we're in I'm telling you this

2062
01:38:05,130 --> 01:38:02,800
issue would be really on fire but

2063
01:38:07,500 --> 01:38:05,140
nevertheless it's still intensifying

2064
01:38:08,490 --> 01:38:07,510
very rapidly people want to get involved

2065
01:38:12,390 --> 01:38:08,500
they want to be part of it

2066
01:38:15,090 --> 01:38:12,400
fantastic so that's why the alien Cohn

2067
01:38:16,650 --> 01:38:15,100
probably is going to be huge this year I

2068
01:38:18,510 --> 01:38:16,660
just can't imagine how many people are

2069
01:38:24,690 --> 01:38:18,520
coming to Pasadena it's gonna be a big

2070
01:38:26,820 --> 01:38:24,700
number and that's great and keep doing

2071
01:38:29,760 --> 01:38:26,830
what you're doing you know because this

2072
01:38:34,080 --> 01:38:29,770
is only just beginning guys we haven't

2073
01:38:36,570 --> 01:38:34,090
even seen the kind of intensity that

2074
01:38:38,940 --> 01:38:36,580
ultimately we're going to see so we've

2075
01:38:40,109 --> 01:38:38,950
seen the a tip of the iceberg would that

2076
01:38:43,419 --> 01:38:40,119
be

2077
01:38:45,220 --> 01:38:43,429
very clever of you sir yes we have seen

2078
01:38:48,459 --> 01:38:45,230
the 8 tip I'm gonna use I'm gonna steal

2079
01:38:52,149 --> 01:38:48,469
that that's no problem no concealer for

2080
01:38:54,220 --> 01:38:52,159
any con yes ok well stiva thank you so

2081
01:38:56,229 --> 01:38:54,230
very much you're on the East Coast right

2082
01:38:58,720 --> 01:38:56,239
now is that about right now I'm up in

2083
01:39:00,839 --> 01:38:58,730
the San Francisco area right ok ok well

2084
01:39:02,979 --> 01:39:00,849
it's we got some nice weather here and

2085
01:39:05,709 --> 01:39:02,989
James and I we've got to get out and

2086
01:39:07,839 --> 01:39:05,719
enjoy the rest of our Sunday good luck

2087
01:39:10,959 --> 01:39:07,849
to you sir thank you so very much for

2088
01:39:13,689 --> 01:39:10,969
doing this and we'd love to have you

2089
01:39:15,970 --> 01:39:13,699
back I'll be happy to be back just let

2090
01:39:22,180 --> 01:39:15,980
me know thank you very much take care

2091
01:39:25,060 --> 01:39:22,190
Steven Bassett thank you but James I and

2092
01:39:29,350 --> 01:39:25,070
Olli I think that was a very successful

2093
01:39:31,689 --> 01:39:29,360
interview oh yeah yeah good good back

2094
01:39:33,339 --> 01:39:31,699
and forth good interaction a lot of

2095
01:39:35,560 --> 01:39:33,349
topics absolutely

2096
01:39:37,750 --> 01:39:35,570
so I'm gonna let you go all right thanks

2097
01:39:39,839 --> 01:39:37,760
for listening everybody and you have a

2098
01:39:42,339 --> 01:39:39,849
great Sunday and we'll be back next week

2099
01:39:44,290 --> 01:39:42,349
with another show

2100
01:39:46,300 --> 01:39:44,300
Joseph Burks is gonna be with us next

2101
01:39:49,120 --> 01:39:46,310
week dr. Joe Louis it'd be great that's